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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Obama needs to be taught a lesson.

    1. He doesn't want to enforce the laws of the land...unless they are to his political advantage.

    2. He complains about Republicans in Congress not doing what he wants them to do...for not working with him...but he doesn't work with the Republicans and he doesn't complain about the Democrats in Congress blocking every attempt the Republicans make to work things out.

    3. He uses this as an excuse to take the law into his own hands by means of EO's.

    4. The President cannot write laws...enforce laws that are not written...change laws that have been passed by Congress.

    If the Republicans prevail in the lawsuit, Obama will be taught a lesson. Whether he actually LEARNS the lesson is another thing. He also has a history of ignoring court rulings. He has actually earned a contempt of court ruling in the past. I suspect he'll earn another one soon.
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I realize president Obama has not utilized numbers wise the quantity of executive orders that a lot of his predecessors have. But I think the quality of his executive orders has exceeded all other presidents and gone possibly beyond the realm of being constitutional. Even so, I am not a fan of the lawsuit. Congress as a co-equal branch has the power to reign in the president if it had the desire. The fact the Republican House wants to and the Democratic controlled Senate does not, does not negate the power of congress if congress as a whole wanted to act.



    If the Democrats in congress are willing to let the president have his way, a sort of an imperial president. That is not the courts problem, it is a political problem. I doubt if a federal judge will even hear the case. But if one does I am sure he will throw it right back at congress and basically say if you think the president has overstepped his bounds, then use your own powers and do something about it.

    and the only "real power" that the house wields is the power of the purse

    yeah....i dont think many on that side want to use that power right before an election

    the time to use that has passed.....

    but if this continues, i wouldnt be surprised to see them use it once november elections are over
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    i guess that is what we are going to find out...isnt it?

    those on the left are aghast....what laws? what has he done?

    those on the right are perplexed that those on the left cant see through their rose colored glasses

    so....we will get a judge, and a federal court to decide

    or at least i think that is where this will end up....
    Usually when you sue someone you sue someone over a specific point.... And usually when you claim someone is doing something illegal you lay out speicifcs of what that person is doing that is illegal.


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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Separation of powers

    geeeeez

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    What specific executive actions has Obama taken that violate this?


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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Usually when you sue someone you sue someone over a specific point.... And usually when you claim someone is doing something illegal you lay out speicifcs of what that person is doing that is illegal.

    havent you read the lawsuit

    what do you think it says?
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    [QUOTE]
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What specific executive actions has Obama taken that violate this?[/QUOTE
    Those situations are stated in the action. Read it.

    To suggest this action is only partisan politics is a lack of awareness or simply ignoring the Contitutional structure of this Republic and political history.

    Enjoy the read, then opine on your observations.

    Have a great day DS

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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States



    when you read the law, and it says "may" that is at the discretion of the president to do.

    when you read the law, and it says "shall" that is something the president must do, its mandatory

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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    havent you read the lawsuit

    what do you think it says?
    "He did not faithfully uphold the elections and he used illegal authority to enact laws". Again Ill ask you what has he done that is illegal?


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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "He did not faithfully uphold the elections and he used illegal authority to enact laws". Again Ill ask you what has he done that is illegal?
    is that all it said?

    or are there specifics laid out in the suit?

    btw...i am not an attorney....nor do i portray one on a debate forum board

    i read what you read....

    you can agree with the suit or not....no skin off my nose one way or the either

    maybe you should call the speaker if you need to know what he was thinking

    but...something tells me you are just trying to bait me into an argument

    thanks...but no thanks
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