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Thread: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I believe if you honer the truth, it will honor you. I would rather try and make the world a slightly better place than have it serve me completely.
    Wonderful platitudes.

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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Still no honest answer? Will you or will you not support liberal solutions that prove positive outcomes? It's that simple.






    I'm not debating the probability of compromises being possible or correct, just the ideological reasoning that someone can't take their blinders off for a moment.
    Rhetoric and platitudes to the specific examples I asked for. Why are you are hiding from reality.

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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Rhetoric and platitudes to the specific examples I asked for. Why are you are hiding from reality.
    That's okay. I understand if you're not willing to answer. I didn't mean to try and degrade your responses.
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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    That's okay. I understand if you're not willing to answer. I didn't mean to try and degrade your responses.
    The unearned moral superiority of the left.

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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    That's okay. I understand if you're not willing to answer. I didn't mean to try and degrade your responses.

    you want an answer, but wont give any details

    what policy?

    what is the cost of the new policy, versus what we have been doing?

    what is the end game of the policy?

    i can look at anything.....and can assess whether or not i like the policy, and whether or not i think it would work

    but how about a few details?

    for instance....parts of the aca were needed, and are good legislation. Most of the bill sucks hind tits! And at the cost of the legislation, and what it is doing to our economy, it is a TOTAL failure.

    but i recognize that the few parts that are good needed to be done.....and will need to be in whatever eventually replaces the aca as that debacle goes broke
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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Are you suggesting that local and highly responsive govt trumps one size fits all top down mandates from Washington?
    Not exactly although there is some truth to that.

    I was more suggesting that small, limited government is better at any level

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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You make my point of the op and my sig "The American left-turning questions of fact into questions of motive."

    So for NOT going along with policies/actions that they not only fundamentally disagree with, but in many cases have previously objectively failed to live up to the promises-conservatives are "bat**** crazy".

    As nuanced as it is logical.
    You did not properly address a single point that I made, let alone come close to making an adequate refutation of any of them. But again, I have come to realize that tone-deafness is a core component of American conservatism, so your failure to provide an adequate response did not surprise me.
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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not all conservative states are successful; not all liberal states are failures.
    From my vantage point in TX, It kinda looks that way!
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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Not exactly although there is some truth to that.

    I was more suggesting that small, limited government is better at any level
    I agree with this.

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    Re: In politics does Intent trump Outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    From my vantage point in TX, It kinda looks that way!
    Then you are not well-informed.
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