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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    If the illegal immigration problem is as dire as some here say it is, should employers of those illegals be jailed?
    >" What Counts as “Hiring An Illegal Immigrant”?
    Under federal law, it is illegal for any employer to hire, recruit or refer for a fee any alien not authorized to work in the United States. This includes hiring contractors who employ illegal immigrants. There are criminal and civil penalties associated with this conduct.

    It is also illegal for any employer not to verify work authorization. An employer who does not correctly complete an I-9 for each employee three days after the employee is hired is also subject to criminal and civil punishment.

    What Are the Penalties For Hiring An Illegal Immigrant?
    For first offenders, there is a $250-$2,000 fine per illegal employee.

    For a second offense, the fine is $2,000-$5,000 per illegal employee.

    For employers who have been convicted of hiring illegal immigrants more than twice, the fine can range from $3000-$10,000 per employee. If the employer demonstrates a pervasive pattern of knowingly employing illegal immigrants, he or she could face additional fines, and up to six months in jail.

    This does not include “harboring” illegal immigrants, or knowingly employing ten or more illegal immigrants in one year. Harboring an illegal immigrant can lead to ten years of prison time.


    Additionally, under the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations (RICO) act, employers hiring illegal immigrants have been sued, resulting in large settlements. The lawfully documented workers of the Zirkle Fruit Company recently settled a class action lawsuit brought under RICO. The suit alleged that their employer knowingly hired undocumented workers, driving down their wages..."<

    Penalties for Employers Hiring Illegal Immigrants | LegalMatch Law Library

    A few weeks later after the above was posted.

    Obama eases penalties for businesses hiring illegal immigrants


    40 percent decrease in fines belies rhetoric

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz39SNDqTuV

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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    If the illegal immigration problem is as dire as some here say it is, should employers of those illegals be jailed?
    No, however, make the fine a percentage of their income and make it to where they feel the pain if caught. As long as employers will continue to hire illegals, they will come in droves.

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    How hard should an employer have to work to determine if someone is legal to work here or not?
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    If the illegal immigration problem is as dire as some here say it is, should employers of those illegals be jailed?
    Yes.As a matter of fact someone who employs illegals should be treated no different than a drug dealer, mobster or some other criminal who profits from illegal activities. That means prison time and their assets forfeited and seized (after a guilty conviction).Every piece of **** who hires an illegal is just another magnet that further encourages illegal immigration.

    Making them only pay a fine encourages them to hire illegals because they can make up the difference because of the money they save from not hiring legal workers. If an employer is saving 2-10 grand by hiring illegals do you really thing that employer is going to be hurt if he only has to pay a 2-10 grand in fines?
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Just increase the fine each time they're caught, at some point the company will be losing year's worth of profits for hiring illegal immigrants.

    Jail time is stupid in this case, that just wastes our money. Instead, if we fine them to the point where their company is destroyed after multiple offenses the govt. not only kills an unethical business but it also saves a lot of resource spending on jails.
    Our government does token enforcement.It needs to hurt the first time for hiring illegals, not the 2nd,3rd,4th,5th or 6th time.
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    How hard should an employer have to work to determine if someone is legal to work here or not?
    I think we just need to come up with a single standard, like universal e-verify, and hold everyone across the board accountable to that single standard. If an illegal can get past e-verify, that's a problem for e-verify to fix, the employer should not be held accountable for that.
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    How about closing down the White House, Obama is not closing the border, so why in the hell should anyone expect they would go after a homeowner for hiring a maid.
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    And why should they, but most important, there is no requirement to prove anyone is illegal or not, nor does anyone have the legal authority to prove anyone is illegal or not. So to think big daddy government is going raid homes to see if you have an illegal nanny is absurd.
    Yes there is a legal requirement to prove your employee's are legal. Perhaps you need some education on the subject before you continue blaring ignorance.
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    If the illegal immigration problem is as dire as some here say it is, should employers of those illegals be jailed?

    i would make the penalties based upon size of business

    and i would make them progressively worse with each new infraction

    and on the 4th infraction....loss of all assets, forfeiture of business

    i would also make the infractions public

    lets say a public company is doing this....shouldnt the board/shareholders have a chance to fire board/elect new officers before liquidation?
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    They should give them a big hug and then smack them in the head...with love.

    Sorry...always get this way after I eat chocolate...I get all happy for a few seconds.


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