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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1063631355
    The two weeks that most of the employees worked that turned out to be illegal..................When the penalty averaged $1500 per worker, yeah, I'd say the fines were pretty stiff.


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    "What part of most only work two weeks or so is unclear?"
    We went through a three year labor audit, and that's when it came to light that they were illegal. We didn't get 'caught' or raided. The employees worked for a couple of weeks and left of their own volition.

    You have an interesting way of interpreting things....
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    We went through a three year labor audit, and that's when it came to light that they were illegal. We didn't get 'caught' or raided. The employees worked for a couple of weeks and left of their own volition.

    You have an interesting way of interpreting things....
    So you are saying that your company found out, turned itself in and that is how your company got the $1,500 fine per illegal employee?
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you are saying that your company found out, turned itself in and that is how your company got the $1,500 fine per illegal employee?
    No, I didn't say that.

    A three year labor audit isn't usually what a company voluntarily inflicts on themselves. The employees passed the federally required checks at that time, before e-verify. The Feds ran the employees through their system and found them to be illegal.

    It cost us $1500 per illegal, plus penalties.
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARTHUR 1976 View Post
    If employers actually paid.a living wage, there would be no.need for.welfare...

    As long as folks.are making 7.25 an hour there will be massive amounts of people on welfare, the cost of living goes up and wages stagnate, figure it out genius..

    As long as the huge income inequality gap exists there will be huge amounts of folks signing up for welfare, and food stamps too, this may come as.a shock to you but poor people have to eat too...
    They do pay a living wage, they don't pay a "life style" wage.

    The so called "living wage" is a myth. If you raise the rates of those workers, cost will have to rise. In less than 6 months, the new wage would have no more buying power than current minimum wage. The only thing such a thing would accomplish is reduce the buying power of those who didn't get a raise.

    As long as there is a huge education and skills gap, there will be a huge wage gap. Uneducated, unskilled workers are just to plentiful to justify even minimum wage today.
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If employers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to make the wage attractive enough to hire Americans.Contrary to popular belief many people on welfare work. If we were to be idiotic enough to listen to those whose lips are firmly planted on the cocks of businesses by getting rid of minimum wage there would still have people on welfare.
    Sure there would, because a lot of uneducated, unskilled and lazy people exist in the US.

    Some oil field work pays very well, but guess what, they have problems filling positions because the labor is out in the heat and the cold and requires physical labor. The other problem they have, same as Walmart and many other companies, is finding people who can pass the drug test.
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    If the illegal immigration problem is as dire as some here say it is, should employers of those illegals be jailed?
    Not sure why you should blame employers for something that they have no ability to determine. We don't have a national identity card or any proof of citizen card and apparently it would be discriminatory to ask questions regarding national origin.

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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Sure there would, because a lot of uneducated, unskilled and lazy people exist in the US.

    Some oil field work pays very well, but guess what, they have problems filling positions because the labor is out in the heat and the cold and requires physical labor. The other problem they have, same as Walmart and many other companies, is finding people who can pass the drug test.
    Apparently they are still not paying enough.Logic says that if the money and benefits you are paying no is not filling up your roster then y need to up the pay and benefits.
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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    Not sure why you should blame employers for something that they have no ability to determine. We don't have a national identity card or any proof of citizen card and apparently it would be discriminatory to ask questions regarding national origin.
    There is e-verify.They can check the dmv records and check to make sure the SS card number matches the applicant. Many employers do not take the applicant's word that the applicant is legal and qualified. They run background checks on potential employees.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    I voted YES.

    A fine would be considered a minor inconvenience to some companies. A jail sentence is a wake-up call.

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    Re: Should employing illegal immigrants result in a jail sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    And why should they, but most important, there is no requirement to prove anyone is illegal or not, nor does anyone have the legal authority to prove anyone is illegal or not. So to think big daddy government is going raid homes to see if you have an illegal nanny is absurd.
    Sure there is. Look up I-9 form.
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