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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's called "impeachment", which raises the question "If Boehner really thinks Obama is a "lawless executive", then why isn't he going for impeachment instead of pursuing a lawsuit which will go nowhere?"
    I believe the narrative is that King Obama will have him beheaded if he tries.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I think the only Constitutional remedy is Impeachment. The Dems tried to impeach Bush, but it didn't go anywhere.

    Nixon was on the verge of being impeached for thinking about doing what Obama is doing.

    As I said, i don't think the framers contemplated a lawless and imperialistic despot in the White House who intentionally is using the power of government to eliminate the rights of citizens.
    What rights have been eliminated?
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Bush's signing statement on the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005.
    Did you really call him King? Good grief.
    You don't know anything about honesty.
    C'mon, Thor ... A signing statement isn't an Executive Order that violates the Law.
    Didn't I show you that even Barney said he lied?

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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    C'mon, Thor ... A signing statement isn't an Executive Order that violates the Law.
    Didn't I show you that even Barney said he lied?
    Didn't you see my response to that?

    Signing statements change laws too. Isn't that the big deal? Every President has used executive orders. If the GOP really believed he should be impeached, they would do it. Even if the Senate wouldn't vote for it, they could use that in the upcoming election to win those valuable seats.

    Is tyranny something that can be overthrown by a civil suit?

    This is what happens when you start with "I hate Obama" and work backwards from there to find evidence to support the conclusion you started with.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Didn't you see my response to that?

    Signing statements change laws too. Isn't that the big deal? Every President has used executive orders. If the GOP really believed he should be impeached, they would do it. Even if the Senate wouldn't vote for it, they could use that in the upcoming election to win those valuable seats.

    Is tyranny something that can be overthrown by a civil suit?

    This is what happens when you start with "I hate Obama" and work backwards from there to find evidence to support the conclusion you started with.
    No they aren't the same thing.

    Leaving aside the fact that Obama criticized Bush for signing statements (oh the irony, but his resume is full of that kind of thing), signing statements are made when the President intends to suggest a portion of the Law they are signing may be unconstitutional in some way.

    Not complying with a date certain part of a Law he signed is what he has done.

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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonic View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but I can't help be struck by the irony that the Republican's should chose the issue of the President 'delaying' portions of the ACA as the basis for their civil law suit

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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    No they aren't the same thing.

    Leaving aside the fact that Obama criticized Bush for signing statements (oh the irony, but his resume is full of that kind of thing), signing statements are made when the President intends to suggest a portion of the Law they are signing may be unconstitutional in some way.

    Not complying with a date certain part of a Law he signed is what he has done.
    OMG, that is horrible! He postponed a portion of the law that republicans opposed and they are livid. It's all jealousy. They tried to repeal the law or parts of it over 50 times. One stroke of the pen doing what they tried to and now they have to sue him. You couldn't make this stuff up.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    OMG, that is horrible! He postponed a portion of the law that republicans opposed and they are livid. It's all jealousy. They tried to repeal the law or parts of it over 50 times. One stroke of the pen doing what they tried to and now they have to sue him. You couldn't make this stuff up.
    I already explained that to Tonic in post #33.
    Right before I cleared up that whole "act unilaterally" thing for you.
    Ya know ... I shouldn't have to repeat myself, big guy.
    Are you trying to Sanghanize me to make me stop commenting?

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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    I already explained that to Tonic in post #33.
    Right before I cleared up that whole "act unilaterally" thing for you.
    Ya know ... I shouldn't have to repeat myself, big guy.
    Are you trying to Sanghanize me to make me stop commenting?
    You didn't clear anything up. Signing statements and executive orders both can be unilateral actions altering existing law.

    This whole ordeal is so absurd. Of course Obama's opponents are gobbling it up. The hyperbole gets a Pavlovian response. Once again, the Party of No is going to waste a bunch of taxpayer money in order to motivate their base and their donors.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    I already explained that to Tonic in post #33.
    Right before I cleared up that whole "act unilaterally" thing for you.
    Ya know ... I shouldn't have to repeat myself, big guy.
    Are you trying to Sanghanize me to make me stop commenting?
    Sanghanize is worth more than one like.

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