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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Not exactly, the quandry was a decision as to whether the Senate was really in recess. It didn't change anything about the executive's power, it simply granted legitimacy to a trick the Senate was using to pretend the Senate was not in recess.

    It would help if you knew what you were talking about.
    I do know what I'm talking about - the ruling of the Supreme Court was that the President did not have the power or the authority to declare the Senate in recess. That was a narrowing of the President's perceived power. So sorry you don't understand law and procedure enough to appreciate it.

    Perhaps you'd be well served to know what you're referring to before you toss out backhanded criticism so ignorantly.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Liar... you opened the post being responded to with a huge indication that you don't respect the point of view or the person.
    Again, your utter ignorance of the discussion puts you in the position of looking foolish. Carleen responded to a comment I directed in response to a different poster, Sangha. I've had no discussion with Carleen other than to thank her for her rude post to me.

    Wanna try for strike three?
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I do know what I'm talking about - the ruling of the Supreme Court was that the President did not have the power or the authority to declare the Senate in recess. That was a narrowing of the President's perceived power. So sorry you don't understand law and procedure enough to appreciate it.

    Perhaps you'd be well served to know what you're referring to before you toss out backhanded criticism so ignorantly.
    Oh, please, you're playing with semantics and trying to pretend the Senate was playing games about being in recess. You full of bs and half truths.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I do know what I'm talking about - the ruling of the Supreme Court was that the President did not have the power or the authority to declare the Senate in recess. That was a narrowing of the President's perceived power. So sorry you don't understand law and procedure enough to appreciate it.

    Perhaps you'd be well served to know what you're referring to before you toss out backhanded criticism so ignorantly.
    Ya know what's coming now, doncha?

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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Again, your utter ignorance of the discussion puts you in the position of looking foolish. Carleen responded to a comment I directed in response to a different poster, Sangha. I've had no discussion with Carleen other than to thank her for her rude post to me.

    Wanna try for strike three?
    I never mentioned who were speaking to, and your indignation doesn't change that the post she was referring shows you as being utterly disrespectful regardless of your claims to the contrary.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Oh, please, you're playing with semantics and trying to pretend the Senate was playing games about being in recess. You full of bs and half truths.
    I'll accept your apology, such as it is, knowing how difficult it is for you to admit being wrong.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Oh, please, you're playing with semantics and trying to pretend the Senate was playing games about being in recess. You full of bs and half truths.
    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court issued a unanimous rebuke to President Obama on Thursday, saying he had overreached in issuing recess appointments during brief breaks in the Senate’s work. - NYT 6/26/2014

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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I never mentioned who were speaking to, and your indignation doesn't change that the post she was referring shows you as being utterly disrespectful regardless of your claims to the contrary.
    Your posts are ridiculously dishonest. If you weren't so quick to need to condemn, you'd know that I responded directly to Carleen to her direct post to me saying that I respect her opinion even if she doesn't respect mine.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonic View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but I can't help be struck by the irony that the Republican's should chose the issue of the President 'delaying' portions of the ACA as the basis for their civil law suit

    Hmm, clearly my 'add a poll' ability seems somewhat impaired. I intended to add a Yes/No question
    Lol. That's the basis of the suit? Ironic, yes. Surprising, no. Maybe I'm reading it wrong and it pains me to say it, but to me it seems the mission of the GOP is not to stand on principle but to oppose President Obama in any and every way possible, in this case demanding by force of law that Obamacare be fully implemented without delay. And primarily because of tribalism; he's not one of us, has no business being President and we must make sure he fails.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Lol. That's the basis of the suit? Ironic, yes. Surprising, no. Maybe I'm reading it wrong and it pains me to say it, but to me it seems the mission of the GOP is not to stand on principle but to oppose President Obama in any and every way possible, in this case demanding by force of law that Obamacare be fully implemented without delay. And primarily because of tribalism; he's not one of us, has no business being President and we must make sure he fails.
    But by suing they are demanding that Obama implement obamacare, which is somthing they opposed.
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