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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It's ironic that those who championed the bill, those who told Americans the bill had to be passed before reading it, it was so good, those who claimed once passed, the American public would come to love the contents and impact of the bill on Americans' lives, are the same people who are doing everything in their power to delay the full impact of the bill on Americans and American businesses.
    Since Boehner and the House voted to delay, I guess they must be one of those who championed the bill.

    After all, according to you they are the same people.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually it only allows for individual hardships and the way its phrased individual employers. It does not allow for delaying implementation of the whole thing.
    And it doesn't delay implementation of the whole thing. They only do two things - allow for individual hardships and delays reporting requirements for employers - both of which the law explicitly allows
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, you've got nothing

    In fact, you can't even prove that the mandates have been delayed.......because they haven't
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And it doesn't delay implementation of the whole thing. They only do two things - allow for individual hardships and delays reporting requirements for employers - both of which the law explicitly allows
    Those are called delays.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And it doesn't delay implementation of the whole thing. They only do two things - allow for individual hardships and delays reporting requirements for employers - both of which the law explicitly allows
    On a case by case basis. You're ignoring the fact that there is a difference between delaying it for everyone regardless of circumstances and getting hardship exemptions on a case by case basis. Those clauses you show are about case by case hardship exemptions. If it did allow for it then Obama would not have had to write an EO to delay it for the simple fact that the Secretary of Health and Human Services could have done it by his/her self.
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    You're using a headline as proof?!!
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    On a case by case basis. You're ignoring the fact that there is a difference between delaying it for everyone regardless of circumstances and getting hardship exemptions on a case by case basis.
    They didn't delay it for everyone. If you don't get a hardship exemption, than the individual mandate still applies to you

    That's because the individual mandates has not been delayed
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You're using a headline as proof?!!
    Are you saying the Post got it wrong?
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    Re: Do You Think It's Ironic that the Republicans chose to sue Obama over ACA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Obama is advocating his own impeachment?
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