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    should games like this be banned?

    This is what Candy Crush Saga does to your brain | Dana Smith | Science | theguardian.com

    Candy Crush is basically designed to exploit human neurochemical weaknesses.

    First off, its simple. The premise of Candy Crush is basic enough for a preschooler just match three candies of the same colour. Initially, the game allows us to win and pass levels with ease, giving a strong sense of satisfaction. These accomplishments are experienced as mini rewards in our brains, releasing the neurochemical dopamine and tapping into the same neuro-circuitry involved in addiction, reinforcing our actions. Despite its reputation as a pleasure chemical, dopamine also plays a crucial role in learning, cementing our behaviours and training us to continue performing them.

    If the game remained this easy, however, wed quickly tire of the jellybeans and gum drops, becoming bored after a couple of binge sessions. But Candy Crush keeps us coming back in several ways. As we play, the game gets harder, the wins (and those bursts of dopamine) becoming more intermittent.

    Also, despite what you may think and what the developers of the game claim Candy Crush is essentially a game of luck, your success dependent on the array of colours you have randomly been given rather than your swiping skills. This means that the reward schedule becomes unexpected: we lose more often than we win and we never know when the next triumph will come. Rather than discouraging us from playing, this actually makes the game even more enticing than if we won easily.

    This strategy is known as a variable ratio schedule of reinforcement and is the same tactic used in slot machines; you can never predict when youre going to win, but you win just often enough to keep you coming back for more.
    This is the sort of mechanism which fuels gambling addiction. As science and psychology becomes more sophisticated, more problems with how the human brain processes information will be revealed, opening the door for more ways to exploit that weakness.

    I personally view this as extremely unethical at best as it purposefully undermines free will. What is your take?

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    Re: should games like this be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    This is what Candy Crush Saga does to your brain | Dana Smith | Science | theguardian.com

    Candy Crush is basically designed to exploit human neurochemical weaknesses.



    This is the sort of mechanism which fuels gambling addiction. As science and psychology becomes more sophisticated, more problems with how the human brain processes information will be revealed, opening the door for more ways to exploit that weakness.

    I personally view this as extremely unethical at best as it purposefully undermines free will.
    What is your take?




    I'm not into gaming, I have better things to do with my time.

    In general, I'm opposed to censorship, if you don't like something, nothing requires you to participate in it.




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    Re: should games like this be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    This is what Candy Crush Saga does to your brain | Dana Smith | Science | theguardian.com

    Candy Crush is basically designed to exploit human neurochemical weaknesses.



    This is the sort of mechanism which fuels gambling addiction. As science and psychology becomes more sophisticated, more problems with how the human brain processes information will be revealed, opening the door for more ways to exploit that weakness.

    I personally view this as extremely unethical at best as it purposefully undermines free will. What is your take?
    It is basic gaming theory. Another example of games that uses similar mechanisms are RPGs.
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    Re: should games like this be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I'm not into gaming, I have better things to do with my time.

    In general, I'm opposed to censorship, if you don't like something, nothing requires you to participate in it.




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    That's where I strongly disagree. People can be strongly controlled by taking advantages in these weakness in brain function essentially resulting I'm the assertion of control, which imposes a level of the requirement you dismiss.

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    Re: should games like this be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    This is what Candy Crush Saga does to your brain | Dana Smith | Science | theguardian.com

    Candy Crush is basically designed to exploit human neurochemical weaknesses.



    This is the sort of mechanism which fuels gambling addiction. As science and psychology becomes more sophisticated, more problems with how the human brain processes information will be revealed, opening the door for more ways to exploit that weakness.

    I personally view this as extremely unethical at best as it purposefully undermines free will. What is your take?
    Banned, no. I don't think they're very good for you. I had Candy Crush on my old phone, but when it died I didn't put it on the new phone. I've stopped playing and I'm glad.


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    Re: should games like this be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    This is what Candy Crush Saga does to your brain | Dana Smith | Science | theguardian.com

    Candy Crush is basically designed to exploit human neurochemical weaknesses.

    This is the sort of mechanism which fuels gambling addiction. As science and psychology becomes more sophisticated, more problems with how the human brain processes information will be revealed, opening the door for more ways to exploit that weakness.

    I personally view this as extremely unethical at best as it purposefully undermines free will. What is your take?
    You've got to be kidding!! Allll these games are addictive. And they all operate the same way, starting with Pac-Man and Atari. Candy Crush is no different than any of the others.
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    Re: should games like this be banned?

    No, it is censorship no matter how bad the game is.

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    Re: should games like this be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You've got to be kidding!! Allll these games are addictive. And they all operate the same way, starting with Pac-Man and Atari. Candy Crush is no different than any of the others.
    In playing pacman I can turn off the console whenever I want to. I am not being exploited.

    For the record though. Five minutes into candy crush, I noticed it was designed for weak willed people and lost interest in disgust almost immediately.

    So its not a personal crusade out of harm or anything. I just don't like it when people are taken advantage of out of moral concern.

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    Re: should games like this be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    This is what Candy Crush Saga does to your brain | Dana Smith | Science | theguardian.com

    Candy Crush is basically designed to exploit human neurochemical weaknesses.



    This is the sort of mechanism which fuels gambling addiction. As science and psychology becomes more sophisticated, more problems with how the human brain processes information will be revealed, opening the door for more ways to exploit that weakness.

    I personally view this as extremely unethical at best as it purposefully undermines free will. What is your take?
    I agree that it may be to some degree unethical...but I'd say the larger issue is that it's more of an issue of how certain people are more susceptible to others to different kinds of addiction. For instance, I myself am addicted to games - I love games of almost all kinds...and since no one else around me plays games, I play a lot of computer games (see how many other 51 y.o. men have a positive KDR on Call of Duty!). I hate to admit that I have such an addiction...but on the other hand, it's a better addiction than alcohol or drugs...and a heck of a lot less expensive.
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    Re: should games like this be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I agree that it may be to some degree unethical...but I'd say the larger issue is that it's more of an issue of how certain people are more susceptible to others to different kinds of addiction. For instance, I myself am addicted to games - I love games of almost all kinds...and since no one else around me plays games, I play a lot of computer games (see how many other 51 y.o. men have a positive KDR on Call of Duty!). I hate to admit that I have such an addiction...but on the other hand, it's a better addiction than alcohol or drugs...and a heck of a lot less expensive.
    I don't addict that easily, except for sweets which I actively avoid but it never got to the point I was motivated to neglect myself or anything.

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