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  • A white person should not teach minority children.

    2 2.86%
  • A person of a minority race cannot teach white children.

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  • Race is not a factor on a person's competency to teach anything.

    41 58.57%
  • Making the race of a teacher an issue is in itself racist.

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Thread: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Man!!!

    Will I be glad (and dead, unfortunately) when there are virtually no more 'races'...just mutts.


    Btw, I am 'white'.
    We already are mutts. Some just don't seem to want to believe their ancestors were randy bastards, that's all.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I'm wrong that there are different cultures in America? I'm wrong that a degreed professional probably didn't experience the same level of subjugation as a poor person who dropped out of high school?

    That's just blatant reality denial.

    Again, why doesn't it bug them that if they hired a minority person, that person wouldn't be from the culture of the other 2 classes they teach? Why is that only a big deal if the person is white?
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's great, however:

    Fast Facts



    In general, 20% of your professors will be of another race and 80% will be white. I doubt those numbers were any different 20 years ("decades") ago when minority graduation rates were even lower. So no, this isn't by any means an institutional thing such as "Whites need not apply". It's one incident, in one school. Your attempt to try and paint it as some sort of institutionally based attack on whites is laughable. If anything, statistics for hiring closely reflect society as a whole and not a bias in either direction. It's a nice try at the old "poor whitey" shtick.
    I don't know what you've been reading, but it certainly hasn't been this thread. Do have a nice day.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry, once a poll is made it can't be altered.
    Yes, Red just told me the same thing. Oh well. My screw up. Nobody to blame but me. Darn it. Thanks anyway.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I'm kind of on a fence with this one. I can see the perspective that one who's lived it and studied it would likely be more qualified, and there is a reasonable history of white teachers not properly teaching minorities. On the other hand, this individual might be the exception to the rule. I might instead of demanding another teacher, be demanding a no-fault 120 day probationary period during which time he can be terminated without the usual union style recourse and must leave without incident. Of course, there are problems even within that solution.

    This one isn't an easy one to cipher out. Both sides have valid povs.
    While I appreciate your reasonable and appropriate point of view, my initial gut response is do they really? Would it be a valid point to object to a black cultural studies teacher on our experience that he will be militantly activist and teach a lot of nonsense that will perpetuate racism? Or that he will no possibly be fair to the Asian and Middle East point of view as well as the black one, whatever that is?

    Is there EVER any justification to judge somebody by no other criteria than the color of his skin?
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
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    Sure... as long as black people are not allowed to teach Greek, Roman or Western Civilization history... or the Enlightenment, or Chinese or Indian history... or anything about the Space Race or Presidential History prior to Obama.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Sure... as long as black people are not allowed to teach Greek, Roman or Western Civilization history... or the Enlightenment, or Chinese or Indian history... or anything about the Space Race or Presidential History prior to Obama.
    That's the whole point. The color of one's skin does not qualify him or her for special skills or knowledge or even a common empathy with his/her students. One of the best teachers of Shakespeare I ever had was a guy who was half Japanese and half American Indian. He was positively brilliant. And my professor of European history in college was a black woman and she too was very, very good. Condoleeza Rice was a specialist in Russia when she got her B.A. in political science and she wrote her dissertation for her PhD on communist Czechoslovakia that had almost no black people at the time (or any other ethnic group that Condi claims in her heritage.) Would that disqualify her from teaching a course on communist Europe which I'm pretty sure would be wonderful for anybody, black or white or any other ethnicity, who was blessed to be in one of her classes?
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    That's the whole point. The color of one's skin does not qualify him or her for special skills or knowledge or even a common empathy with his/her students. One of the best teachers of Shakespeare I ever had was a guy who was half Japanese and half American Indian. He was positively brilliant. And my professor of European history in college was a black woman and she too was very, very good. Condoleeza Rice was a specialist in Russia when she got her B.A. in political science and she wrote her dissertation for her PhD on communist Czechoslovakia that had almost no black people at the time (or any other ethnic group that Condi claims in her heritage.) Would that disqualify her from teaching a course on communist Europe which I'm pretty sure would be wonderful for anybody, black or white or any other ethnicity, who was blessed to be in one of her classes?
    I agree. The very notion that this white guy can't properly teach or encapsulate the issues faced is ridiculous. I am a teacher and we teach a unit on WWII and the Holocaust. I do a very good job and I am anything but Jewish.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    What's the problem here?



    So long as you're not white, straight, or religious -- discrimination and racism are perfectly acceptable...


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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    A black person can move just as easily as a white or any other version of human.
    A black person cannot move away from racial injustice/privilege because it's systemic. A white person can because it's not. This is because geographic areas of black domination of social sectors are limited and they do not permeate all of society (they're not systemic).

    As blacks cannot escape racial injustice/privilege, and whites can, the situations are clearly not the same.

    I am referring, of course, to the US.
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