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  • A white person should not teach minority children.

    2 2.86%
  • A person of a minority race cannot teach white children.

    2 2.86%
  • Race is not a factor on a person's competency to teach anything.

    41 58.57%
  • Making the race of a teacher an issue is in itself racist.

    22 31.43%
  • I have a completely different perspective and will explain.

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Thread: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're just spamming nonsense. Let me know when you'd like to address an argument.
    Translation: you are still deflecting and got nothing to support your failed claims.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Deleted, wrong forum.



    I'll give credit, good one.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I think rabbit might be confusing Affirmative Action laws with something else here. But in any case, it is prejudicial, discriminatory, and racist to reject a teacher for no other reason than the color of his skin.
    Re-read my post instead of misrepresenting what I said. I clearly stated school districts are allowed to recruit and hire teachers based on demographics. That is factual so I'm not confusing anything. What difference does it make if it is under affirmative action laws or not? Schools can hire based on color under certain laws.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Well, that is the most ignorant statement I have read on this site in quite some time.

    It's also completely impossible to prove.

    'rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]
    noun
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.'


    Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com

    By definition, racism is a belief. It is impossible to know what the belief's of people you do not know is. So to accurately say that racism by whites in America is nonexistent, then you would have to know what EVERY SINGLE 'WHITE' PERSON IN AMERICA THINKS.
    And since you cannot and do not know this, then your statement is totally unprovable, ridiculous and should be treated as such.

    I know I will.

    And don't bother debating me on this... I am not wasting one further second debating such a ludicrous statement as the one you made...life is WAY too short and your mind is clearly WAY too closed.

    I pity anyone that feels as you do about this.


    Good day.
    Since you took the time to answer my post its only fitting I would answer yours.

    The point I was emphasizing in my post was that "perceived" racism in this country is just that perceived. Mostly by people whom have something to gain from perceiving racism. You go to another country you WILL find racism, real racism. Not this penny anny crap we call racism, but the real and true deal you know? The kind where people are actually oppressed. That was my point. The oppression going on in the US, is in the minds of those who want a buck or think they are the so called enlightened. Like I said before you would be hard pressed to find a genuine racist in the US. They have been made pariahs and basically run out. In statistical terms they are nonexistent in US, to the tune of a couple of decimal points.

    By the way, where did I mention humans of ANY SPECIFIC variety in the statement I post that you felt you had to respond to.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    WTF ???
    Whatever happened to the 3Rs????
    Racism, Racism, and Racism?

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't know the "institutionalized racism" argument, but I'll attempt to shed some light.

    Minorities cannot be racist against the majority because there are not societal impacts of their racial bigotry regarding systemic injustice/privilege at the social scale in question (national or global). As racism is a social construct, it can only be defined by social factors.

    Now, regarding your incorrect context. You see, the white person can move and no longer be the subject of racial bigotry. A black person cannot move away from racial bigotry present throughout society. Since a white person can move to escape, and a black person cannot, these are not the same situations. Thus, the context to be examined in determining systemic injustice/privilege is that of national or global.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    , Question. What's the percentage of people who believe similarly?
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I can go there, and I can leave. Even if those cities were controlled by black power (they're not), I could escape the racial bigotry.

    Black people cannot escape racial bigotry. White people can. See the difference?
    No I don't. Anybody in the US can escape to anywhere the like. By the way I don't buy the racial bigotry writ large. I have seen genuine oppression. It aint in this country. You want to see systematic oppression, go to Kuwait, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, India, China, basically most of the old world. You will see REAL oppression. What is called oppression here in the US, is in the figment of someone's imagination.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I have to gently disagree. There ARE plenty of racists in this country but they are the ones who demand that skin color be obvious, at the forefront of everybody's consciousness, and deferred to. They are the ones who exploit skin color to the max, who enlist their gullible advocates to make sure that racism is deemed alive, well, increasing, and the most horrible thing that happens in society--there are plenty of folks who profit mightily from the doctrine and a whole big block of people in government who depend on it for their power, prestige, influence, and tenure.

    In the context of the OP they are here. You see their posts. They see recognition and deference to skin color as all important and whether people of color actually are educated in the schools as secondary or even immaterial.

    Seems to me a good teacher of so-called 'cultural studies' would be teaching the concept that we don't have to be limited by what we are born into or our own experience and would illustrate the many many examples of people of all genders, races, and ethnic groups who have lived lives that demonstrates that truth. The teacher would encourage the students to understand what is required to become a responsible, productive, and successful member of society and that the choice to do that is theirs. And the teacher would understand that self esteem does not come from seeing ourselves as limited by who or what we are, but comes from success in meeting real objectives and goals and would push the students to believe in themselves so that they will do that.

    And the skin color of the teacher will not have a damn thing to do with how good he or she is at teaching that.
    To be honest with you, I don't even think they the noisy minority of race pimps even make up a hundredth place decimal point in statistical terms, that's everyone combined white power, black power, la raza, the shebang. Most Americans I think just don't give a damn about one way or another. It actually has to be brought to their attention. Even then most think its much ado about nothing unless its a very specific incident. That's my opinion.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    With all due respect, I think the people keeping racism alive are the ones who deny its existence.
    I don't deny the existence of it. I deny that it is widespread influential and oppressive. I think with rare exception it is mostly perceived and not really genuine. I have seen the real deal. What we call racism, and what racism really is are two completely different things. Go to Kuwait, India, Pakistan, Russia, pretty much anywhere in the old world except maybe some of the Scandinavian countries and you will find genuine real and oppressive racism. People in our country are for the most part quite friendly and accommodating to damn near everyone. Every country has their dicks and assholes, but the US's dicks and assholes are in general much tamer than the garden variety you find outside the states.
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