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  • A person of a minority race cannot teach white children.

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  • Making the race of a teacher an issue is in itself racist.

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Thread: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    That disrupts students. Not a good plan.
    It doesn't disrupt students.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Do you think blacks do not think they are superior to whites?
    I don't think all whites hold superiority to blacks, why would I think all blacks do so?

    The important thing to realize is that a black believing he is superior to whites means nothing to white people at a societal, systemic, scale. Of course, a white being a racial bigot carries societal, systemic, impacts for blacks.

    A black being a racial bigot means nothing to me socially. It will never affect my housing, employment or justice at a societal level. It's pissing in the wind, socially. The reverse, of course, is different. When a white is a racial bigot it carries a real, systemic - inescapable, threat to the minority.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 08-02-14 at 05:05 PM.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Racial bigotry =/= racism. The former is an individual act, the latter is a social construct dependent upon and defined by social power dynamics. When racial bigotry is supported by national or global social power dynamics, it is racism. Without the support of social power dynamics (at a scale that permeates all sectors of society), racial bigotry is insignificant regarding societal impacts, and thereby very different.
    This is why your whole argument is BS. You expand your position to encompass as much as possible while ignoring that social power dynamics in a small town can be quite different than even a whole nation. This is actually reflected in how the founding fathers of this nation set up our system of government. They understood what you apparently either don't know or refuse to acknowledge. Can you tell me why it is that a town can make individual rules/laws for itself? Why that town has its own "president" in the form of a mayor? Why it has its own "senate" in the form of the city council? Or to expand this, can you tell me why each state has its own "president" in the form of a governor? It's own senate board?

    There is a reason that our country has so many layers of government. Can you tell me why?


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I have a question for you:

    Do you believe the preservation of the "white race" and "white culture" is a just cause?
    Going by this....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Preserve as in keep other races out, not as in stagnate.
    No.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Of course, but the only relevant measurement is the national or global scale when discussing societal (permeating) injustice.
    Correction. The only relevant measurement to YOU is national or global. Because anything else would prove you wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Not within the US. The option of moving to a ghetto is, in itself, racial injustice.
    Are you saying that all blacks live in ghettos? I'm pretty sure that is racist in and of itself. And sorry, but you don't get to limit it to just the US. You brought up the word "global" and as such you must stick by it in all counts. Otherwise you are just moving the goal posts to suit your needs. Which is dishonest debate tactics.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Dropping context (national) is pathetic. I'm not impressed. A black could isolate from society, any idiot sees this (BS) possibility.
    I wasn't dropping context. You specifically brought in the global aspect. Therefore you must accede to your own argument...or disregard it.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    So again with the absolute. There is nowhere in the country that a black person can live without being discriminated against.
    Systemic injustice is what it is.

    Do you know any black people that agree with you?
    Of course. For example: all sociologists agree... black, white or otherwise.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    This is why your whole argument is BS. You expand your position to encompass as much as possible while ignoring that social power dynamics in a small town can be quite different than even a whole nation.
    I can move away from any insignificant geographic location, and those locations are the result of injustice. Let's not pretend that a black moving to a ghetto escapes injustice. Blacks cannot move away, the location is society and not geographic.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Go to Chicago and Detroit in the black neighborhoods, or any other black neighborhood, and I bet you get the same thing. Or go to one of the various Asian neighborhoods. Or the Hispanic neighborhoods and they all say the same things as the "whites" do about other races and whites. Guess what, they aint any more racist than anyone else in this country of any color or persuasion. What you call bigoted I call ignorant, or more likely lazy. The proof is their ability to get along with others not like them. Fact is this country is not racist, not by a long shot, and definitely when compared to the rest of the world not even close to racist.


    No, just had the misfortune of meeting actual racists, bigoted SOB's no mistaking them for what they really were. They called themselves Kuwaitis, and Saudis ect. The US version of racist and the worlds are two completely different things.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I wasn't dropping context.
    Of course you were. If you want to argue that an American black can move to Africa to avoid racial injustice, I'd argue that Africa is oppressed by the West. At national and global scale, blacks suffer injustice.


    You specifically brought in the global aspect. Therefore you must accede to your own argument...or disregard it.
    I don't think that word means what you think it means.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 08-02-14 at 05:27 PM.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Schools are decentralize for a reason. There is nothing wrong for people of a community to have sway in educational decisions.
    Each city/community can structure it as the voters want. It is their money.

    For this case I cannot remember the article saying how they had in this case. I also missed a comment on regulation regarding government decisions on selecting employees by color.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    So here we are. Who agrees that a white man cannot teach cultural studies? And can a black man teach Latino and SoutheastAsian studies if a white man cannot teach black studies? Or has the world gone absolutely nuts?

    Black community leaders in Fresno, Calif., are urging the Fresno Unified School District to re-evaluate the hiring of a white guy to
    teach three cultural studies courses at a brand-new middleschool that will overwhelmingly serve minority students.

    Rutherford B. Gaston Middle School — named after the city’s first blackprincipal — will open in a few short weeks. It’s the first middle school in the immediate, poverty-ridden vicinity since 1979.

    The protesters are unhappy because the school has chosen to hire Peter Beck, aperson with white skin, over other, unidentified candidates, The Fresno Bee reports.

    Beck will teach African-American studies, Latino studies and Southeast Asian studies. . . .

    . . .“We’re just saying what the community wants,” said Rev. Karen Crozier, oneof the activists. “We didn’t fight for a white male or female teacher to educate our babies.”

    Crozier, who appears to be a professor at Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary, also suggested that a white person cannot teach minority children in this instance because of racism. . . .

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/29/black-leaders-in-fresno-oppose-white-cultural-studies-teacher/
    if this is true i do believe that this violates several federal hiring laws.

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