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  • A white person should not teach minority children.

    2 2.86%
  • A person of a minority race cannot teach white children.

    2 2.86%
  • Race is not a factor on a person's competency to teach anything.

    41 58.57%
  • Making the race of a teacher an issue is in itself racist.

    22 31.43%
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Thread: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Yes actually. Racism by whites toward others in this country is nonexistent by most any degree of measure. Racism of ANY kind by ANYONE is exceptionally limited to may as well be nonexistent. What you call racism is simply not. Its called culture and societal dynamics. Believe me having been overseas I know what racism is, especially the kind employed by the powers that be. You want a really good example go to China or South East Asia or to any country in the Middle East, Kuwait and the UAE whom are supposedly enlightened with plenty of Western comforts should be interesting. To be blunt racism here is mostly a figment of peoples imaginations anymore, its mostly people trying to game the system or make a buck or some perceived slight. If you want the real deal, you need to leave the country. If a real racists showed up most people would be shocked A) B) they wouldn't know what to do. Social dynamics exist the world over, there are always minorities and they are always going to feel they are getting the shaft in someway. Its called life.

    I missed the US part.

    Well, that is the most ignorant statement I have read on this site in quite some time.

    It's also completely impossible to prove.

    'rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]
    noun
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.'


    Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com

    By definition, racism is a belief. It is impossible to know what the belief's of people you do not know is. So to accurately say that racism by whites in America is nonexistent, then you would have to know what EVERY SINGLE 'WHITE' PERSON IN AMERICA THINKS.
    And since you cannot and do not know this, then your statement is totally unprovable, ridiculous and should be treated as such.

    I know I will.

    And don't bother debating me on this... I am not wasting one further second debating such a ludicrous statement as the one you made...life is WAY too short and your mind is clearly WAY too closed.

    I pity anyone that feels as you do about this.


    Good day.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Being individuals will say that no one has the same exact experiences, but with that said, black history does have its own special history hence the name black before the word history. I see nothing wrong with the recruiting of a well qualified black man to teach a course specific to Black American History if this community so desires.
    Then you see no problem in recruiting a well qualified white man to teach a course specific to those of European ancestry? It also has it own special history that includes mostly the whitest of Caucasians. Don't you see what an evil slippery slope such a policy would create? If it is wrong to favor white people, then it is wrong to favor black people or vice versa. Such a mentality keeps the races separate, divided, and perpetuates a chronic racism that is never allowed to die. Until we can see skin color as of no more importance to who and what we are than is eye color or hair color, we are racists who promote racism.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Probably, but what is your point? Local communities still have sway on school policies for the most part. I'd be surprised if this wasn't the case in CA.
    If the teachers' ie the schools are paid out of general taxes, I do not see why the parents should have a say in teacher selection.
    It is the local government making a decision and I would tend to think that they cannot make decisions to select according to color.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Then you see no problem in recruiting a well qualified white man to teach a course specific to those of European ancestry? It also has it own special history that includes mostly the whitest of Caucasians. Don't you see what an evil slippery slope such a policy would create? If it is wrong to favor white people, then it is wrong to favor black people or vice versa. Such a mentality keeps the races separate, divided, and perpetuates a chronic racism that is never allowed to die. Until we can see skin color as of no more importance to who and what we are than is eye color or hair color, we are racists who promote racism.
    Such courses are different and often specific to race and/or culture. If I had a pick, I would choose a person close to whatever the course taught and may even have direct experience with the culture/history (for instance someone that had direct experience with the civil rights movement and is a candidate for teaching black American history.) It would be equally important for such a person to have excellent qualification for teaching. I see nothing wrong with trying to recruit such a person. Direct experience for any course is important. To pretend it's not and it's racist is not looking at reality.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    If the teachers' ie the schools are paid out of general taxes, I do not see why the parents should have a say in teacher selection.
    It is the local government making a decision and I would tend to think that they cannot make decisions to select according to color.
    Schools are decentralize for a reason. There is nothing wrong for people of a community to have sway in educational decisions.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No matter where a black person goes, they will suffer injustice/privilege in regard to housing, employment and the justice system. There is no escape.

    Blacks must deal with injustice every day of their lives and in every aspect of their lives.

    Denying the existence of racism in the US is nonsense.
    You think there is no justice for a black man in America.

    He is discriminated against no matter where he goes or what he does.

    I would hate to go through life thinking like you, but of course it isn't true.

    In case you don't know, everybody must deal with injustice to whatever degree in their lives.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Smurfs are blue. Is that a minority color? This little fella' looks like he could teach cultural studies.

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    I am not sure about that. He is kind of small.

    I don't think the students would see him when he was sitting in his chair or even standing in front of the class.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Yes there is because it assumes a black person is more qualified based purely on the color of his skin. He isn't. He can be just as out of touch with the experience of many black Americans as a white man can be out of touch with the experience of many white Americans. It is as racist to think that all the people of a particular race in any given class will see things the same, think alike, or share a common experience as it is foolish to assume that a person who hasn't experienced something is incapable of understanding it. Cultural studies should not be about individual experience. Cultural studies should be focused on history and the effects of various dynamics and policy on society as a whole. The teacher should be competent to teach that, and skin color is 100% unimportant re whether he or she will be competent.
    It's pretty doubtful, in the USA, for a minority individual, regardless of immediate familial socio-economic level, to be unaffected by racism. Just not at all likely. And if, and that's a REALLY BIG IF, by some chance a minority individual and his immediate family are lucky enough in the USA to have never experienced racism, they surely have an extended family and/or friends that have and therefore are nonetheless more aware than a white who has never and has no relatives/friends that have.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    My position is not that injustice is "institutionalized", though I used that term once in trying to explain this concept to you. I wouldn't have used that term, but the concept seemed entirely beyond you and I was trying to make it more simple.
    None of those links that I presented is of you talking to me. In fact you used it on a different poster in each of those links. So yeah...looks like you used it more than once and use it quite often. And as I said, I could bring up more posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Let's not use incorrect terminology any more, ok? I understand you were confused, and you are not misrepresenting me on purpose, it's just that you did not understand the concept. Now, let's see if we can correct this. Here is the proper term, please try to use it in the future so as to not misrepresent your opponent's position. I've told you this before, and you failed to understand, so I'm really hoping that you can grasp this and stop misrepresenting your opponent's position (which is really a scummy thing to do).
    I understand the concept just fine. Its a BS concept meant to excuse racism by anyone that isn't white.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Let's remember that you do not get to decide how to frame my position incorrectly. Let's keep in mind that misrepresenting someone else's position is wrong. Here's the real deal, do try to remember this time:
    Actually I have every right to define your position they way that I see it. You put it out there and as such it is open for criticism and rejection. In order to do such one must define it as defining is exactly what every single one of us do. Its human nature.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    "Systemic racism"

    I was trying to define systemic racism for you before, by referring to injustice/privilege existing in institutions, but the concept is not defined by institutions, it's defined by being systemic.
    Sorry, but I am not responsible for what my ancestors did.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Meaningless for two reasons:

    1. Social power dynamics are not decided by numbers. They are decided by power. Numbers and power sometimes coincide, but not always. Remember: power, not numbers, is the important part.
    Incorrect. Power by its very nature when concerning people can only be enforced due to numbers. Or do you not believe in voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    2. Societal injustice/privilege is examined at the national or global scale, not local. This is important because it recognizes that whites can escape racial bigotry and blacks cannot.
    Societal injustice/privilege can be measured just as easily locally as it can be measured nationally or globally. And fyi, blacks can move also to escape racial bigotry also. Let's make a bet. 1 months DP donation that I can name a place in which a black can move to in order to escape racial bigotry.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm in a good mood, so I'm gonna try to explain why that statement is apologism:

    Superiority is inherent to bigotry. Pretending otherwise apologizes for bigotry in attempting to claim it is something other than false superiority.

    Do you believe superiority is not inherent to bigotry? If that's the case, you're wrong and you need to re-examine the concept.
    Do you think blacks do not think they are superior to whites?

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