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Thread: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    A black person cannot move away from racial injustice/privilege because it's systemic. A white person can because it's not. This is because geographic areas of black domination of social sectors are limited and they do not permeate all of society (they're not systemic).

    As blacks cannot escape racial injustice/privilege, and whites can, the situations are clearly not the same.

    I am referring, of course, to the US.
    Hello Africa??? Sure as hell aint white dominated there. Black domination is very systematic there. Detroit, Chicago, DC, Atlanta, just to name a few in the US. They can escape just as well as the rest of us. White people don't rule the whole bloody world. Not even close to it. That's even assuming your injustice/privilege argument is even valid, which its not. The people who come up with that horse crap obviously are ill educated fools who apparently don't know what a societal culture is.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Hello Africa??? Sure as hell aint white dominated there. Black domination is very systematic there.
    Did you not see that I specified the US?

    If you'd like to change contexts, that's not a problem. In the case of, say, Kenya, blacks are the dominate group and Arabs are the minority. In this case, blacks can be racist against Arabs but Arabs cannot be racist against blacks. The standards for this assessment are the same as assessing racism in the US - social power dynamics.

    Detroit, Chicago, DC, Atlanta, just to name a few in the US. They can escape just as well as the rest of us.
    I've already explained that the context in question, when examining societal injustice, is national. Of course, those cities are not dominated by blacks in every sector of society anyway.

    White people don't rule the whole bloody world. Not even close to it.
    If you'd like to change context to global, that's great. At the global scale, whites are the dominate group. Let's remember, social power dynamics are not determined by numbers. Sure, numbers often coincide with power, but there are examples when this was or is not the case. A perfect example is South Africa during Apartheid; blacks had numbers but whites had the power which is the essential factor in evaluating racial injustice at the societal level.

    That's even assuming your injustice/privilege argument is even valid, which its not. The people who come up with that horse crap obviously are ill educated fools who apparently don't know what a societal culture is.
    Are you claiming racism by whites against blacks and other minorities does not exist systemically in the US?

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Did you not see that I specified the US?

    If you'd like to change contexts, that's not a problem. In the case of, say, Kenya, blacks are the dominate group and Arabs are the minority. In this case, blacks can be racist against Arabs but Arabs cannot be racist against blacks. The standards for this assessment are the same as assessing racism in the US - social power dynamics.



    I've already explained that the context in question, when examining societal injustice, is national. Of course, those cities are not dominated by blacks in every sector of society anyway.



    If you'd like to change context to global, that's great. At the global scale, whites are the dominate group. Let's remember, social power dynamics are not determined by numbers. Sure, numbers often coincide with power, but there are examples when this was or is not the case. A perfect example is South Africa during Apartheid; blacks had numbers but whites had the power which is the essential factor in evaluating racial injustice at the societal level.



    Are you claiming racism by whites against blacks and other minorities does not exist systemically in the US?
    Yes actually. Racism by whites toward others in this country is nonexistent by most any degree of measure. Racism of ANY kind by ANYONE is exceptionally limited to may as well be nonexistent. What you call racism is simply not. Its called culture and societal dynamics. Believe me having been overseas I know what racism is, especially the kind employed by the powers that be. You want a really good example go to China or South East Asia or to any country in the Middle East, Kuwait and the UAE whom are supposedly enlightened with plenty of Western comforts should be interesting. To be blunt racism here is mostly a figment of peoples imaginations anymore, its mostly people trying to game the system or make a buck or some perceived slight. If you want the real deal, you need to leave the country. If a real racists showed up most people would be shocked A) B) they wouldn't know what to do. Social dynamics exist the world over, there are always minorities and they are always going to feel they are getting the shaft in someway. Its called life.

    I missed the US part.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Yes actually. Racism by whites toward others in this country is nonexistent by most any degree of measure.
    I don't believe that's true at all.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't believe that's true at all.
    Believe what you want, but the fact is you have to look long and hard to find a racist in this country, let alone one that's "white". You go to the middle east or elsewhere you find them by just picking up a pebble and toss it into the crowd or go to the local government office. The average US citizen who has not been out of country doesn't know and most likely hasn't seen racism in person, only heard about third hand.
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Believe what you want, but the fact is you have to look long and hard to find a racist in this country, let alone one that's "white".
    Not true.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It IS racist. Even by "institutionalized racism" arguments. Here you have black leaders who are in positions of authority demanding that a white person be replaced....because he's white. I'd LOVE to see the apologists try and argue past this one.

    Jesus. WTH can people not learn to see past skin color?
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Not true.
    In your neighborhood, what percentage are racist?
    In your town?
    In your state?
    In the US?

    I would say less than 1% are genuinely racist. I personally think 1% is high. What do you think the number is?(Total of ALL genuine racists)
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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    In your neighborhood, what percentage are racist?
    In your town?
    In your state?
    In the US?

    I would say less than 1% are genuinely racist. I personally think 1% is high. What do you think the number is?(Total of ALL genuine racists)
    That's not an easy estimate. In my neighborhood in central Florida (poor), perhaps 10%. But if I go outside of the university town, to a surrounding (country boy) town, that number goes up drastically.

    I suppose it depends on ones definition of a "genuine" racist. I would consider someone that thinks blacks are generally lazy, unethical, etc to be racist, even though they don't sport swastikas. I know people that have black friends, but they will say things like "I only get ripped off by black people". Obviously, that's not true; it's just an ingrained belief that blacks are less trustworthy than whites. Of course, they consider their black friends to be "exceptions", and they would never say to their black friends what they say to me. I would also consider a belief that blacks are generally less intelligent than whites to be racist, even if the person is not a neo-nazi. Then there's those who think "white culture" is superior, or that "white solidarity" is not racist.

    I think if you show me 10 white people, I'll show you 2 that have racially bigoted beliefs. If we do this exercise in a small town in central FL, I'll show you 5 or more.

    I figure you have a higher standard for "genuine racist" than I.

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    Re: Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's not an easy estimate. In my neighborhood in central Florida (poor), perhaps 10%. But if I go outside of the university town, to a surrounding (country boy) town, that number goes up drastically.

    I suppose it depends on ones definition of a "genuine" racist. I would consider someone that thinks blacks are generally lazy, unethical, etc to be racist, even though they don't sport swastikas. I know people that have black friends, but they will say things like "I only get ripped off by black people". Obviously, that's not true; it's just an ingrained belief that blacks are less trustworthy than whites. Of course, they consider their black friends to be "exceptions", and they would never say to their black friends what they say to me. I would also consider a belief that blacks are generally less intelligent than whites to be racist, even if the person is not a neo-nazi. Then there's those who think "white culture" is superior, or that "white solidarity" is not racist.

    I think if you show me 10 white people, I'll show you 2 that have racially bigoted beliefs. If we do this exercise in a small town in central FL, I'll show you 5 or more.

    I figure you have a higher standard for "genuine racist" than I.
    Stop being so intolerant. Whites aren't racist anymore, in fact white men are the most persecuted people in history. Unless they're Democrats, then they get a pass from the media.


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