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    Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Here is a story about Portland, Oregon mayor Charlie Hales:

    PORTLAND – Portland Mayor Charlie Hales personally backed Gov. Kitzhaber’s position on welcoming refugee children to the state Wednesday.

    Last week, Oregon took in 50 immigrant kids who crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, supporting them as they await legal proceedings.

    Kitzhaber said he welcomed the children with open arms. Senator Jeff Merkley also supported the governor's position.

    On Wednesday, Hales weighed in.

    “Immigration is a federal issue. The City of Portland has no official position on this topic,” he said. “But I’m not just a mayor. I’m a father. And speaking as a father, I stand with Gov. John Kitzhaber and welcome these refugee children to Oregon.”

    Hales said that turning away the kids wouldn’t align with the spirit of Portland or Oregon.

    “Oregon has been a welcoming home to unaccompanied minors and refugee children, and will continue to be so while we wait on Congress to adopt more responsible immigration policies," Hales said.
    More than 200 kids have been taken to Washington state. California has seen over 3,000.
    The issue has sparked Portland rallies from both sides of the debate.


    Hales: ‘I welcome refugee children to Oregon’


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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Absolutely. Its inhumane to turn refugees away.


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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Here is a story about Portland, Oregon mayor Charlie Hales:

    PORTLAND – Portland Mayor Charlie Hales personally backed Gov. Kitzhaber’s position on welcoming refugee children to the state Wednesday.

    Last week, Oregon took in 50 immigrant kids who crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, supporting them as they await legal proceedings.

    Kitzhaber said he welcomed the children with open arms. Senator Jeff Merkley also supported the governor's position.

    On Wednesday, Hales weighed in.

    “Immigration is a federal issue. The City of Portland has no official position on this topic,” he said. “But I’m not just a mayor. I’m a father. And speaking as a father, I stand with Gov. John Kitzhaber and welcome these refugee children to Oregon.”

    Hales said that turning away the kids wouldn’t align with the spirit of Portland or Oregon.

    “Oregon has been a welcoming home to unaccompanied minors and refugee children, and will continue to be so while we wait on Congress to adopt more responsible immigration policies," Hales said.
    More than 200 kids have been taken to Washington state. California has seen over 3,000.
    The issue has sparked Portland rallies from both sides of the debate.


    Hales: ‘I welcome refugee children to Oregon’
    Not sure I understand what "welcome" them means. Does that mean as opposed to objecting to them coming to my state? I wouldn't object to anyone coming to my state as long as the person wasn't a danger to anyone. Do I want them in my home? No.

    As long as the state has a place for them, what difference would it make to me?

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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    I don't think it is good policy to welcome invaders.

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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Well it seems my state and specifically that idiot mayor of Portland and our moron of a governor already made the choice for us. That's not news, they welcome illegals all the time up here. We have quite a thriving population of them as it is. Of course they don't stay in Portland, that's where all the folks too weird for even the weirdos are. They come on out to the other Metro areas and set up shop.

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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Absolutely. Its inhumane to turn refugees away.
    And since they are not refugees that makes the comment superfluous.

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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    If you start allowing refugees for sentimental reasons, then the world will pick up on that and flood America with many times the present number of refugee children.

    And many of them will die in the attempt.

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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not sure I understand what "welcome" them means.
    It means a parade in which they are a guest of honor and they sit on the float and you run up to them with a bouquet of flowers followed by a donation of food and a money order of about $1000 and finally the mayor pins a medal on them and they give a speech before they settle down in their new house right next to yours.

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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    ref·u·gee
    ˌrefyo͝oˈjē,ˈrefyo͝oˌjē/
    noun
    noun: refugee; plural noun: refugees

    a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
    "tens of thousands of refugees fled their homes"
    synonyms: émigré, fugitive, exile, displaced person, asylum seeker; More

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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens


    a) Criminal penalties
    (1)
    (A) Any person who—
    (i) knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
    (ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
    (iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
    (iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
    (v)
    (I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
    (II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
    shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).
    (B) A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs—
    (i) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i) or (v)(I) or in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), or (iv) in which the offense was done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both;
    (ii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;
    (iii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) during and in relation to which the person causes serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, or places in jeopardy the life of, any person, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both; and
    (iv) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.
    (C) It is not a violation of clauses [1] (ii) or (iii) of subparagraph (A), or of clause (iv) of subparagraph (A) except where a person encourages or induces an alien to come to or enter the United States, for a religious denomination having a bona fide nonprofit, religious organization in the United States, or the agents or officers of such denomination or organization, to encourage, invite, call, allow, or enable an alien who is present in the United States to perform the vocation of a minister or missionary for the denomination or organization in the United States as a volunteer who is not compensated as an employee, notwithstanding the provision of room, board, travel, medical assistance, and other basic living expenses, provided the minister or missionary has been a member of the denomination for at least one year.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324

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