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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Here is a story about Portland, Oregon mayor Charlie Hales:

    PORTLAND – Portland Mayor Charlie Hales personally backed Gov. Kitzhaber’s position on welcoming refugee children to the state Wednesday.

    Last week, Oregon took in 50 immigrant kids who crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, supporting them as they await legal proceedings.

    Kitzhaber said he welcomed the children with open arms. Senator Jeff Merkley also supported the governor's position.

    On Wednesday, Hales weighed in.

    “Immigration is a federal issue. The City of Portland has no official position on this topic,” he said. “But I’m not just a mayor. I’m a father. And speaking as a father, I stand with Gov. John Kitzhaber and welcome these refugee children to Oregon.”

    Hales said that turning away the kids wouldn’t align with the spirit of Portland or Oregon.

    “Oregon has been a welcoming home to unaccompanied minors and refugee children, and will continue to be so while we wait on Congress to adopt more responsible immigration policies," Hales said.
    More than 200 kids have been taken to Washington state. California has seen over 3,000.
    The issue has sparked Portland rallies from both sides of the debate.


    Hales: ‘I welcome refugee children to Oregon’
    Accepting 50 kids is a nice gesture (and great PR!) but let's keep in mind Portland, OR is 1,600+ miles away from the US/Mexican border and isn't really dealing with illegal immigration in the same way that Texas or Arizona is. Maybe those states should ship a few hundred thousand illegal immigrants Portland's way.
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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Is it really immoral to attempt a better life for ones children? Clearly, the parents that sent them felt life in America would be better than anything they could provide.

    If I had kids and was living in a craphole, I can see doing everything I can to get them out of hell and to America, where they'd stand a chance of a decent life.
    Except, for the umpteenth time, why America? Why not Venezuela the socialist paradise, or any of the other, much closer Central and South American nations? That way they wouldn't have to pay coyotes to move them.

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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    No. Because they are not refugees. To think that some of those kids, which are under 10 years old, made a 1000+ mile trek all by themselves without some sort of supervision and therefore are "unattended" is actually an insult to peoples intelligence. They came here with help. Which means they are not and never were unattended. (except maybe for the last 1/4 mile so the perps wouldn't get caught). Send them back.
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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    If they are going to be returned to a area in the world where violence is a everyday thing, they are in danger of being forced to join a gang, or be a victim of trafficking they should be granted refugee status here.
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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Nope, I do not welcome illegal aliens, regardless of age. Send them all back across the border and let them do it the legal way.
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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Would I welcome them? No. They should be sent back.

    Would I go out and protest and otherwise make their relocation to my area more difficult? Again, no. At that point it's petty.

    Would I vote for people at a later date who made their relocation to my area easier/possible? Probably not. Depending on what other issues were at play. It's a big issue, but it's not a litmus test.
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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    I'd rather not. At the same time, these kids were basically thrust into this situation by their parents and it's not hard to see why their parents took such extreme measures.

    Though all this makes me feel it's time for American foreign policy to pay more mind again to our neighbors than God forsaken places in the Near East.
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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Here is a story about Portland, Oregon mayor Charlie Hales:

    PORTLAND – Portland Mayor Charlie Hales personally backed Gov. Kitzhaber’s position on welcoming refugee children to the state Wednesday.

    Last week, Oregon took in 50 immigrant kids who crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, supporting them as they await legal proceedings.

    Kitzhaber said he welcomed the children with open arms. Senator Jeff Merkley also supported the governor's position.

    On Wednesday, Hales weighed in.

    “Immigration is a federal issue. The City of Portland has no official position on this topic,” he said. “But I’m not just a mayor. I’m a father. And speaking as a father, I stand with Gov. John Kitzhaber and welcome these refugee children to Oregon.”

    Hales said that turning away the kids wouldn’t align with the spirit of Portland or Oregon.

    “Oregon has been a welcoming home to unaccompanied minors and refugee children, and will continue to be so while we wait on Congress to adopt more responsible immigration policies," Hales said.
    More than 200 kids have been taken to Washington state. California has seen over 3,000.
    The issue has sparked Portland rallies from both sides of the debate.


    Hales: ‘I welcome refugee children to Oregon’
    Sure. I don't see any possible way they could make Detroit worse than it is.

    Although they'd probably be safer back in Mexico.
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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Is it really immoral to attempt a better life for ones children? Clearly, the parents that sent them felt life in America would be better than anything they could provide.

    If I had kids and was living in a craphole, I can see doing everything I can to get them out of hell and to America, where they'd stand a chance of a decent life.
    So you just abandon them, hoping that they end up with someone safe?? As bad as things may be, simply "casting them on the waves and hoping for the best" is an immoral act.
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    Re: Would You Welcome The Refugee Children To Your State/City?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    So you just abandon them, hoping that they end up with someone safe?? As bad as things may be, simply "casting them on the waves and hoping for the best" is an immoral act.
    Not when one is in a hopeless situation where a short life of agony and despair is imminent. If I had children in a S/C. American slum, I'd do anything I could to get them to the US with or without me.

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