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Thread: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    That is NOT how Conservatives think.

    Thats how Liberals want everyone to believe. That Conservatives are selfish, ego centric disconnected individuals.

    Our principles are being redefined by our opponents and then passed off as a objective analysis of Conservative core principles.

    Unfortunately, as proven by the last two Presidential elections there are far too many intellectually lazy Americans who are ripe for this kind of partisan motivated misinterpretation.

    The Liberals agenda is more about creating victims by spreading narratives that are meant to divide based on envy of all things.

    The more emotionally poisoned the American populace is the better off the Democrats are in terms of winning elections and staying in power.

    The problem for the Millions of America's who are gullible enough to buy into this toxic manipulation is things don't get better for them under Democrat rule.

    Things don't become more " equitable, fairer ".

    No, because any real improvement would threaten the lefts original agenda of creating as many victims as possible.

    Any real movement towards equality would remove the dependency that the Democrat party needs to stay viable.

    Its the basis of this STUPID Op.

    Divide, set up a narrative based on misrepresentations NOT to improve the situation but to perpetuate toxic false narratives that are all centered around envy.

    Thats how screwed up the left is.

    They're more than willing to use one of the most destructive Human emotions to further their cause and the more pain, the more discontent there is the happier they are
    You said it--dependency. Oh, and victimhood too.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    That is one of the common flaws in conservative thinking: "I made it out of poverty, everyone else can also." It is wrong because statistically, most people do not make it out of poverty, especially outside the USA.

    Making it out of poverty generally requires intelligence, ability to focus and do work, a supportive family or mentor and opportunity.

    Not everyone is intelligent and many poor people are impaired by toxins and/or mental illness. (being very poor makes many people crazy, often for generations) The stress and instability often associated with poverty can interfere with developing or applying intelligence.

    The ability to focus and do work is a skill that needs to be acquired (and may also be a genetic trait to some degree). In more successful families the ability to focus and do work is usually modeled and taught by parents without much conscious thought. That does not happen in many poor families, especially if they are struggling with substance abuse and mental illness.

    Almost every person who has risen out of poverty had a supportive family member or mentor that helps teach good work habits and knows how, where and when to make an effort to get results.

    Opportunities also matter. A young person given a legit part-time job or told about an internship or scholarship is more likely to be successful than one who is not given an opportunity or such guidance. There are only so many jobs and scholarships, so there is an element of luck involved.

    With enough time, money and effort these elements for success could be provided by K-12 schools, but currently they are not, especially in the public schools serving the poor. If we want to really solve some of our society's problems we should work on putting less resources into the military, prisons, justice system, police etc and invest it in giving every young person the best education, guidance and opportunity. Unfortunately, too many people think that they benefit from the current system of class oppression for it to happen anytime soon. (ie.prison guards) Instead profiteers are exploiting the good intentions of ignorant people to sell them their school and prison privatization schemes as a solution.
    +1

    Ace post, dude. The idea that millions of people are simply brainless, idle scroungers, is asinine. As if one's economic status in a system that stacks the odds in favour of a tiny minority, directly correlates with an individual's attitude and will. At best, a demonic drive for advancement could only minimise the probability of abject poverty, assuming nothing greater than mediocre ability. Millions of working-class folk bust their asses all their lives, but don't have a pot to piss in. The worst thing is that this perspective most often issues from people with comfortable, middle-class backgrounds. At least old money is honest enough not to pretend it's anything other than openly contemptuous. They don't dress it up in untenable paper arguments that defy reality.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    +1

    Ace post, dude. The idea that millions of people are simply brainless, idle scroungers, is asinine. As if one's economic status in a system that stacks the odds in favour of a tiny minority, directly correlates with an individual's attitude and will. At best, a demonic drive for advancement could only minimise the probability of abject poverty, assuming nothing greater than mediocre ability. Millions of working-class folk bust their asses all their lives, but don't have a pot to piss in. The worst thing is that this perspective most often issues from people with comfortable, middle-class backgrounds. At least old money is honest enough not to pretend it's anything other than openly contemptuous. They don't dress it up in untenable paper arguments that defy reality.
    It is my opinion that the vast majority of persons could work and support themselves if the opportunity existed.

    The key, of course, is making sure that opportunity exists.

    And in my mind, the "opportunity" to work in a min-wage or barely above it job all your life, barely making ends meet, is not opportunity.

    Sure you can argue that if a person just "worked harder", they would be better off. But there aren't enough jobs out there to support that many "hard working people", or we would have more doing it.
    Education.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Sure you can argue that if a person just "worked harder", they would be better off. But there aren't enough jobs out there to support that many "hard working people", or we would have more doing it.
    Everyone I know gets a raise or promotion after a year of good work. Anyone incapable of getting a raise, despite years of work, is either disabled and should have welfare support or is disabling themselves with drugs and/or alcohol.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Everyone I know gets a raise or promotion after a year of good work. Anyone incapable of getting a raise, despite years of work, is either disabled and should have welfare support or is disabling themselves with drugs and/or alcohol.
    Hmm...

    I suspect it depends in part on area.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

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