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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I agree. Both sides want much of the same thing but disagree on how to go about it. Both want fairness. Both want everyone to do well. But the devil lies in the details of how to accomplish that.
    That also applies to this thread http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...p-someone.html
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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Not “partisan BS” at all, but basic ethics.

    Charity consists only of giving what is rightfully yours to give. Taking from others what is not yours is just theft, no matter how noble you think your purpose is for what you are taking.

    There is no charity in being generous with other people's resources; only with your own.
    That's fine, but I am not interested in charity, but solving issues.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    That's fine, but I am not interested in charity, but solving issues.
    Did you forget the topic of the thread?
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Did you forget the topic of the thread?
    Yes, but its already been shown the religiosity accounts for increased urges for charity and not political ideology, so the case is closed on the original question. Once you control for religion, conservatives and liberals have an equal amount of empathy if measured by charitable giving.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    A complete inability to relate to those who are less fortunate.
    Some, of course... just as some on the Left don't care about the less fortunate, just about how much money they can make appearing to care.

    I think that Libertarians care about a result. They think that people can do it for themselves and that is a noble goal. Some lose perspective that others sometimes need help though...
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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    I find it rather interesting that neither the title, the poll question, not the OP really match up. Interesting too that the title assumes that libertarians are the same as conservatives.

    I think that slyfox says it best in that ultimately it is not a question of empathy but of what one believes the solution to be. Additionally, I think that there is a variation on what people consider the "less fortunate". When I see two people without a job, and one is turning in applications left and right, trying to go to school or otherwise develop a marketable skill and spending most of their waking hours trying to be productive and the other who simply whines on how unfortunate they are and wants me to provide them money, but oh no don't offer to buy them a meal instead....yeah, I'm seeing the former as the "less fortunate" one and the later as the lazy one. Granted these are extreme example and people can land anywhere in between and even beyond these examples.
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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    I find it rather interesting that neither the title, the poll question, not the OP really match up. Interesting too that the title assumes that libertarians are the same as conservatives.
    In what way is it assuming anything? Its asking do those are the far right, conservative / libertarians lack empathy? Not sure how that is confusing.

    The poll question and the title question are the same thing as well.. both ask if those on the far right lack empathy.. If you take the literal dictionary definition of empathy, I can see how the OP might not fit if you were so much of a literal human being that you couldn't see what I was getting at. It shouldn't be too hard, I'm simply asking if the attitudes of far right individuals shows any patterns of lacking empathy. Especially in the media.
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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Actually the two are equal as the motivation is what matters. In both cases, people are seeking to help those in need. Pretending charity matters more is just partisan BS.

    The reason the ingroup thing matters is that helping the ingroup versus just worrying about needs is a way to reinforce the culture of the ingroup making it an evolutionary survival strategy instead of an altruistic act. It has a lot of selfishness attached to it.
    Wrong again. How one feels, ie empathy, can only be objectively measured by acts of charity. Otherwise it's just hormonal emoting that helps no one. Putting your hands to the plow and working for another's benefit is an objective measure.

    Applying the word empathy to a group is an improper use of the word. Empathy is understanding the feelings of another. Because feelings are unique to each individual, to empathize with a group is to de-individualize and in effect dehumanize. Bad move.
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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Not “partisan BS” at all, but basic ethics.

    Charity consists only of giving what is rightfully yours to give. Taking from others what is not yours is just theft, no matter how noble you think your purpose is for what you are taking.

    There is no charity in being generous with other people's resources; only with your own.
    Bob. I think it is only theft where there is no consent. We keep electing theives and therefore have consented to our own wealth destruction.
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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Wrong again. How one feels, ie empathy, can only be objectively measured by acts of charity. Otherwise it's just hormonal emoting that helps no one. Putting your hands to the plow and working for another's benefit is an objective measure.

    Applying the word empathy to a group is an improper use of the word. Empathy is understanding the feelings of another. Because feelings are unique to each individual, to empathize with a group is to de-individualize and in effect dehumanize. Bad move.
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