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Thread: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Friedman? Okay whatever. It's my fault for saying, "Libertarians think..." I would never in a million years included Friedman to be a libertarian. I'll have to be more careful to remember that libertarian means a lot of things to a lot of different people. Next time, "Many libertarians think..."

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Friedman? Okay whatever. It's my fault for saying, "Libertarians think..." I would never in a million years included Friedman to be a libertarian. I'll have to be more careful to remember that libertarian means a lot of things to a lot of different people. Next time, "Many libertarians think..."
    Yeah, I find it pretty odd that a libertarian would think Friedman was one. Sure, he said he was, but his views surely didn't reflect it.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Personally, I'm not big on many of his policies but I'm curious as to why you call him a monster?
    I called the negative income tax a monster, not Friedman. Friedman was just an idiot that enabled and helped put in place big government policies while claiming to be fighting against them.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    While I don't entirely agree, some people say that a libertarian is a liberal who understands economics.
    No, I don't agree with that at all. Modern liberals and libertarians don't have much in common really.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, I find it pretty odd that a libertarian would think Friedman was one. Sure, he said he was, but his views surely didn't reflect it.
    I guess it just goes to show you that libertarianism means different things to different people.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I called the negative income tax a monster, not Friedman. Friedman was just an idiot that enabled and helped put in place big government policies while claiming to be fighting against them.
    I think he would disagree with you. He wanted to cut government down to bare bones which he and the Chicago Boys did in Chile during their experiment. It help to plummet half the population into poverty but to be fair I don't the dictator that implemented his policies started to redistribute some of the wealth of the country until it hit obscene poverty levels. Once he did implement specific safety nets, poverty started to lift slowly.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    I guess it just goes to show you that libertarianism means different things to different people.
    Friedman claimed to be a libertarian following the classical liberal tradition. Classical liberals however support separating the government from almost everything and would never support the federal reserve, income taxes, welfare, the withholding system, the federal reserve, the negative income tax, all of which Friedman supported and helped become what it is today. He apparently didn't know what classical liberals support. :/

    We are talking about people that find their origins in the idea of government that would do nothing except protect the rights of people. Under their system there would be no standing army, no central bank, the government would have no control over currency, there would be no such thing as economic polices whatsoever. There is really no argument to be made that he was a classical liberal.
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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Friedman claimed to be a libertarian following the classical liberal tradition. Classical liberals however support separating the government from almost everything and would never support the federal reserve, income taxes, welfare, the withholding system, the federal reserve, the negative income tax, all of which Friedman supported and helped become what it is today. He apparently didn't know what classical liberals support. :/

    We are talking about people that find their origins in the idea of government that would do nothing except protect the rights of people. Under their system there would be no standing army, no central bank, the government would have no control over currency, there would be no such thing as economic polices whatsoever. There is really no argument to be made that he was a classical liberal.
    Correct, under your system there would be no standing army. Try to eliminate our military. That should be interesting.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Correct, under your system there would be no standing army. Try to eliminate our military. That should be interesting.
    It would be a good idea no doubt. Almost all war only occurs because the state has the power to send off their men and now their women to die for the states causes. Remove that power and you eliminate a great deal of suffering and death.

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    Re: Do far right Conservatives/Libertarians lack empathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It would be a good idea no doubt. Almost all war only occurs because the state has the power to send off their men and now their women to die for the states causes. Remove that power and you eliminate a great deal of suffering and death.
    Hey, I don't entirely disagree with you, but isn't it a little bit too late? In reality we have caused a lot of wars and made a lot of enemies so now if we took our military away, wouldn't we be sitting ducks?

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