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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I vote yes.

    A retailer should be able to make this decision. It's not discrimination based on sex, skin color, religion, or anything like that.

    Then, the consumers should be able to find another place to do business if they really hate that concept that much.

    People who chose to make bad business decisions should be free to do so.
    That's not really the question, though. "Should be allowed" is one thing, "should they?" is another. IOW: just because you can doesn't mean you should. They are within their legal rights to do so, and was pointed out in the first post. Is what they are doing proper and/or ethical?
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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Total Wine here in Nevada has a sign that says no one under 21 permitted inside the store. Not sure if that has more to do with the fact they serve samples in the store from various vendors though.
    Some states are entirely like that. In Idaho, there's a terrible catch22, you can't take your child in with you to the liquor store (beer and wine only in the grocers, though I guess that could count to this discussion), and you cannot leave your child in the car, not even for 5 minutes last I heard. But yes, that would be the thing to do if a state wanted to assure that minors don't even see booze being bought or sold.
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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That was in response to another's stated position, which I felt needed qualification.
    Oh, I see. Perhaps multi-quoting could be your friend.
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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Some states are entirely like that. In Idaho, there's a terrible catch22, you can't take your child in with you to the liquor store (beer and wine only in the grocers, though I guess that could count to this discussion), and you cannot leave your child in the car, not even for 5 minutes last I heard. But yes, that would be the thing to do if a state wanted to assure that minors don't even see booze being bought or sold.
    Just a guess that those two laws serve different purposes, but yes, it is a catch-22.

    Leave your kid on the sidewalk. All is good.
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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Just a guess that those two laws serve different purposes, but yes, it is a catch-22.

    Leave your kid on the sidewalk. All is good.
    When I was married and had to buy booze, I went to one with a TCBY just two doors down, and would buy them a treat and ask the employees if they could watch them for five. They always said yes. Evenso, what a position to put a parent in. Trusting the sidewalk or a relatively unknown employee of another store rather than having them attached to their parent.
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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    The new Texas signs say. "Everyone in your group needs a valid license to prove you are 21 years old"
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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    I personally believe that the drinking age should be 15 or 16 and not really enforced, so I personally feel a minor of that age should be able to buy it anyways. In this case I think it is ridiculous, what if the kid just went into the store with their parents to buy wine or something for dinner?
    Because 15 and 16 year olds are so responsible.

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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The new Texas signs say. "Everyone in your group needs a valid license to prove you are 21 years old"
    Yes, but Texas like Idaho, doesn't allow selling hard liquor in regular stores, unless that's changed since I left. Some cities/counties you can't buy at all, there are no liquor stores. Some you can't buy wine with dinner with or without children... To suggest Texas is superior in it's liquor laws is to be uninformed (unless there was a huge change since 1983 when I left or 1997 when I last visited).
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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    When I was married and had to buy booze, I went to one with a TCBY just two doors down, and would buy them a treat and ask the employees if they could watch them for five. They always said yes. Evenso, what a position to put a parent in. Trusting the sidewalk or a relatively unknown employee of another store rather than having them attached to their parent.
    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The new Texas signs say. "Everyone in your group needs a valid license to prove you are 21 years old"
    There a difference between a person buying for a friend (straw purchase), which is probably the original intent, and a person buying for them self with their 12 yr old tagging along.
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    Re: Should a retailer refuse to sell alcohol to a legal adult if a minor is present?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Some states are entirely like that. In Idaho, there's a terrible catch22, you can't take your child in with you to the liquor store (beer and wine only in the grocers, though I guess that could count to this discussion), and you cannot leave your child in the car, not even for 5 minutes last I heard. But yes, that would be the thing to do if a state wanted to assure that minors don't even see booze being bought or sold.
    i would have to question the priorities of a parent who would place their kids at potential risk only to purchase a non-necessity such as liquor
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