View Poll Results: Do you think there will ever be another world war?

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  • Yes, within the next 100 years

    8 28.57%
  • Yes, but not within the next 100 years

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  • Maybe, and if it happens it will be within the next 100 years

    4 14.29%
  • Maybe, but not in the next 100 years

    2 7.14%
  • No, there will never be another world war

    5 17.86%
  • I simply do not know if there will be one or not

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  • The next big war will be an intergalactic one with an alien species/war on another planet

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Thread: 100 years since the start of the first world war

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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    "I know not what weapons world war III will be fought with, but WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
    Perhaps it's naive of me, but I just don't think we're insane enough (at least currently) to have a worldwide nuclear war.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Of course. Who cares about Africa.
    When I said "we don't hear about those because they don't affect Western civilization", that's not saying we should ignore Africa. If you understood the context in which it was written, you would have understood that my statement was more than anything an indictment of those who write our history books. For instance, what was the most terrible war of the 19th century? Was it the Napoleonic wars? No. Was it the American civil war? No. Was it the war between Germany and France? No. Was it the Boer War? No. It was the Taiping Rebellion in China, where 20 million people died. But do we see that in our history books? No.

    "Relative to population", because relative to population for all of Europe is 750 million.. You have China and India which are bigger then them alone and the whole of Africa is 1.1 billion. So Relative to Europe, Africa is a bigger deal. But alas I won't rest my point on that but rather.. the history of Western Europe vs Africa.. which is basically the same. A warring crap hole. Europe hasn't had one peaceful century going back to the Greeks.
    I'm not comparing one continent to the other, am I? No. Instead, I'm looking at humanity as a whole. If you don't like it, that's your problem.

    It's not about Navy, per se but China's anti-ship missile systems, like the DF-21D.
    This might come as a shock to you, but China's anti-ship missile systems don't present any threat whatsoever to our submarine fleet. Our surface fleet is effective for sea control and air superiority...but sea denial is a whole different matter - it's our submarine fleet that takes out the other navies, and after that threat is eliminated, our surface fleet moves in and gets to work.

    And that's why I'm not at all worried about China's anti-ship missile systems. They're only a threat in the radius they can reach when based on Chinese soil. Any Chinese ships are nothing more than targets. Chinese electric subs are getting better...but I'd bet on ours any day of the week.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Simple answer.......Yes.

    Those who truly believe that the Cold War ended with Glasnost, the "restructuring" of the USSR and the fall of the Berlin Wall are deluded. The tensions in and among many ancillary nations never really ceased and the "fallout" of nuclear proliferation has yet to be fully realized. The places and the faces have changed, the world's "power stores" have become a bit more diluted.......and yet the game remains the same. The end result will be another "line being drawn in the sand" so to speak, and many of the industrialized powers of the world will be forced to take sides. My guess is we may be seeing a "priming action" at this very moment in the sands of the Mideast (recent actions in Gaza). Just my two cents.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Powerful, and he was Jewish.
    Hmm, but Germany surrendered before the bomb was finished...

    Agree with Einstein's statement in principal, these weapons are the devil, but it's been 70 years...he didn't need to lift a finger (and didn't really). Nukes would exist by now regardless.

    I'm sure these weapons will lead to humanity's demise if not one of those natural mass extinctions first, but for now, MAD and global economy has given us a reprieve from total war. I think the concern for the foreseeable future will be that crazed jihadists acquire them. Consider the complete guessing game as to Hussein's regime having WMDs, and i suppose anything's possible.

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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Perhaps it's naive of me, but I just don't think we're insane enough (at least currently) to have a worldwide nuclear war.
    We have time, years are never-ending, you and I may be, but once we're gone whoever is to take our place, how do we know that they will think like us? Nuclear war is just a thought, but that doesn't mean it may not happen, I just hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime. How selfish of me I guess.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Tomorrow July 28 2014 will be the centenary of the beginning of the first world war.

    Since then we have had 2 world wars with millions of killed soldiers and innocent civilian victims.

    We have seen the rise and the fall of the league of nations.

    We have seen the formulation of Geneva conventions on war crimes.

    The start of the world court to prosecute war criminals around the world.

    The start of the cold war and the Warshaw pact and the fall of the Soviet Union.

    But the question is, do you think there will ever be another world war?
    Probably, but not in my lifetime.

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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    We have time, years are never-ending, you and I may be, but once we're gone whoever is to take our place, how do we know that they will think like us? Nuclear war is just a thought, but that doesn't mean it may not happen, I just hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime. How selfish of me I guess.
    I mean "we" as in "humans".

    But I suppose I may be wrong...
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I frankly pay not enough attention to things to respond with accuracy.

    However I suspect that we are simply more aware of the current conflicts - though some upswing has occurred, I think...



    Russia, the country that Obama said was a relic of the past is acting more like the geo political foe that he said it could never and would never be. Obama dismissed Russia's intentions that are clearly displayed today as ancient history in favor of the fantasy he maintains at the expense of the people he should be trying to serve. Russia is invading and occupying the second country in 6 years.

    The Arab Spring is becoming the Winter of Democracy. Dreams of freedom have died in the Middle East. Only a couple years late, Obama has pulled our diplomats out of Libya.

    Africa is a killing field from the Mediterranean to South Africa.

    The Middle East has insurrection in the countries that are peaceful and genocide and shooting wars in the countries that are at war. Of course, we are fighting in Afghanistan waiting to abandon them to the warlords as Russia did before us. The tension between Pakistan and India is as great as it's ever been.

    China is building a blue water navy. North Korea is daily firing at the South.

    This is a very dangerous stage to be playing on and Obama is an incompetent boob seemingly unaware of what is happening.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Tomorrow July 28 2014 will be the centenary of the beginning of the first world war.

    Since then we have had 2 world wars with millions of killed soldiers and innocent civilian victims.

    We have seen the rise and the fall of the league of nations.

    We have seen the formulation of Geneva conventions on war crimes.

    The start of the world court to prosecute war criminals around the world.

    The start of the cold war and the Warshaw pact and the fall of the Soviet Union.

    But the question is, do you think there will ever be another world war?
    Except for select units of the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe US forces have not faced an opponent who adhered to the Geneva Conventions since the outbreak of WW2. Those are a dead letter.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Tomorrow July 28 2014 will be the centenary of the beginning of the first world war.

    Since then we have had 2 world wars with millions of killed soldiers and innocent civilian victims.

    We have seen the rise and the fall of the league of nations.

    We have seen the formulation of Geneva conventions on war crimes.

    The start of the world court to prosecute war criminals around the world.

    The start of the cold war and the Warshaw pact and the fall of the Soviet Union.

    But the question is, do you think there will ever be another world war?
    Greetings, Peter King.

    I read an article recently which stated that since 3600 BC, a new war has broken out every five months! Now these weren't all world wars as we think of them, but considering that their world in those days was much smaller to them, maybe it could be termed worldwide. Egypt conquered much of the area around them, as an example. So, with mankind's past history of fighting with each other, YES I believe we will have another World War. And I think it will be far sooner than 100 years, or even 50 years for that matter, sad to say.

    Ironically, a flu virus that emerged from World War 1 trenches crossed the ocean and killed more Americans than World War1, World War 2, and the VietNam war combined! Perhaps we should be more concerned about the arrival of the next pandemic, which the WHO has recently stated is overdue!

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