View Poll Results: Do you think there will ever be another world war?

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  • Yes, within the next 100 years

    8 28.57%
  • Yes, but not within the next 100 years

    0 0%
  • Maybe, and if it happens it will be within the next 100 years

    4 14.29%
  • Maybe, but not in the next 100 years

    2 7.14%
  • No, there will never be another world war

    5 17.86%
  • I simply do not know if there will be one or not

    8 28.57%
  • The next big war will be an intergalactic one with an alien species/war on another planet

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Thread: 100 years since the start of the first world war

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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Thing is, other than the Rwanda war, all those are pretty minor. We don't hear about most of those in the history books because they don't affect Western civilization.
    Of course. Who cares about Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    On the one hand, I'm enjoying discussing this matter with someone who has a clue (kudos to you) - but on the other hand, the key to what I said was "relative to the population"...because Africa and (if to a lesser extent) eastern Europe have never been peaceful places to raise a family. Do you really think that in generations gone by, that Africa was a peaceful place to live? Of course not.
    "Relative to population", because relative to population for all of Europe is 750 million.. You have China and India which are bigger then them alone and the whole of Africa is 1.1 billion. So Relative to Europe, Africa is a bigger deal. But alas I won't rest my point on that but rather.. the history of Western Europe vs Africa.. which is basically the same. A warring crap hole. Europe hasn't had one peaceful century going back to the Greeks.


    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Very true - but remember, what I said was "relative to the population".
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    I could argue that...and if I read you correctly, you know the arguments I'd use.
    Yep, so no reason to bore me!

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    You're absolutely right about that one...but a strong army doesn't do much when it comes to taking control of an island. The real battle - when it comes to the Spratly Islands - is economic and political, because if we involved ourselves in a naval battle for those islands, the Chinese wouldn't stand a chance. Of course, being retired Navy, I'm biased...but most of their admirals know that they cannot compete with our Navy.
    It's not about Navy, per se but China's anti-ship missile systems, like the DF-21D.


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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Dude...you really need to lay off the grape Kool-Aid....

    Lemme see here...the Dow's on track to perhaps even triple what it was two months after Obama took office, the deficit's been cut by more than 50%...and Obama's grown the government more slowly than any president since Eisenhower.

    We are now involved in ZERO major wars - Afghanistan's in the last few months of an occupation, and all we have in Iraq are a relatively few troops in an 'advisory' role.

    Add to that the fact that Obama's gotten us closer to having universal health care (like ALL the other first-world democracies already have) than any other president...and the percentage of uninsured has already dropped significantly.

    "Don't-ask-don't-tell" is gone and most of the nation's come to understand that discrimination against LGBT's is flatly wrong, just as any discrimination is wrong.

    And on top of all that, he's been having to deal with the most obstructionist Congress since the Civil War. This Congress can't even pass VA reform because the Republicans refuse to pay for it, thinking that tax cuts will somehow pay for the tens of billions more tax dollars that will be required to pay for reform of the VA.

    You can gripe all you want...but history is going to show that Obama was in retrospect a very good president indeed.


    All of that is partisan induced bias, but there is a reference to one bit of solid information that i will bet you don't have the slightest inkling what the facts are.

    How much of the 3.8 billion dollars demanded by Obama to answer the immediate "crisis" at the border is slated to be spent before the end of this fiscal year?
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Um, if you'll notice, I'm referring to the last quarter century. I know, I know, all you can see and think about is Obama - you've got a serious case of "Obama Derangement Syndrome" - but this is much bigger than Obama or even America as a whole.

    And the period between 1900 and 1910 was NOT so peaceful - we were dealing with the Huk rebellion in the Philippines after we kicked out the Spanish during the Spanish-American War (and where we committed a small-scale genocide), the Russians and the Japanese had a major war, there was the second Boer War in Africa...

    ...and those are the ones I know of off the top of my head. I'm sure I could find more if necessary.

    Try again, guy - we ARE in the middle of what is (relatively speaking) the most peaceful time in recorded human history. And yes, this DOES take into account Rwanda.


    That peaceful time ended when Bush invaded Iraq.

    The world is teetering on the brink and all you care about is whether or not Obama can shift the blame of it from his incompetence to any Republican.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    That peaceful time ended when Bush invaded Iraq.

    The world is teetering on the brink and all you care about is whether or not Obama can shift the blame of it from his incompetence to any Republican.
    The world was in no way peaceful when we invaded Iraq, either time.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    The world was in no way peaceful when we invaded Iraq, either time.


    It was nothing like it is today.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    It was nothing like it is today.
    I frankly pay not enough attention to things to respond with accuracy.

    However I suspect that we are simply more aware of the current conflicts - though some upswing has occurred, I think...
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Tomorrow July 28 2014 will be the centenary of the beginning of the first world war.

    Since then we have had 2 world wars with millions of killed soldiers and innocent civilian victims.

    We have seen the rise and the fall of the league of nations.

    We have seen the formulation of Geneva conventions on war crimes.

    The start of the world court to prosecute war criminals around the world.

    The start of the cold war and the Warshaw pact and the fall of the Soviet Union.

    But the question is, do you think there will ever be another world war?
    The Third World War has been happening since the breakup of the Soviet Union. It's just been popping up here and there like pimples on a teenager's face- trouble is, it won't be ended so cleanly as the last two.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    The Third World War has been happening since the breakup of the Soviet Union. It's just been popping up here and there like pimples on a teenager's face- trouble is, it won't be ended so cleanly as the last two.
    If it is not recognized as a world war it does not count in my poll as a world war.

    Most if not all fighting has been with regional conflicts that never spun out of control. Even the Korean war and Vietnam war were local conflicts unlike the first and second world war in which most of the large superpowers of the time fought in and took place over several continents.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    No. Einstein knew what he was doing when he proposed atomic weapons.
    "I know not what weapons world war III will be fought with, but WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Something he came to deeply regret: "Had I known that the Germans would not succeed in producing an atomic bomb, I would have never lifted a finger."
    Powerful, and he was Jewish.
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