View Poll Results: Do you think there will ever be another world war?

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  • Yes, within the next 100 years

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  • Yes, but not within the next 100 years

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  • Maybe, and if it happens it will be within the next 100 years

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  • Maybe, but not in the next 100 years

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  • No, there will never be another world war

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  • I simply do not know if there will be one or not

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  • The next big war will be an intergalactic one with an alien species/war on another planet

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Thread: 100 years since the start of the first world war

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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Fermi was okay. His bomb gave us a good life.
    Actually, I agree with this. We stood on the razor's edge of a worldwide catastrophe, but thanks to nuclear weapons, we did not go to all-out war with the Soviets...and as another example, India and Pakistan have not fought any truly major battles since they both acquired nukes.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Is the world in flames with shooting conflicts on 5 out of seven continents the "desired outcome" of this administration?
    You've been watching too much of "The sky is falling!!!!!" crap coming off of Fox News and right-wing media.

    Why?

    Even with all the crap going on in the Ukraine and in the Middle East, since the fall of the Soviet Union the world has been - relatively speaking to the size of the world's population - in a Great Peace. For the past quarter century, even with all the little and seemingly big wars that have happened, the world's been relatively more peaceful (meaning, fewer people dying due to war and war-related causes) than in any comparable stretch of time I can think of in the past.

    Think about it - can you point to any quarter-century period in all recorded human history where some relatively major war wasn't going on, where genocide and war-related famine and pestilence weren't ravaging different parts of the world, to a greater relative degree than has been occurring since the fall of the USSR?

    I don't think you can.

    So relax - and remember the reason why you see so much bad news is because bad news sells better than good news...see the Chicken-Little news broadcasts for what they are: a way to make money.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I believe we are amidst one today propagated largely by the US. The difference today being we have found that we do not need to always use direct military force but can instead use economic and political means to the same end. Why put solderers on the ground when you can replace them with CIA operatives and manipulate things to a desired outcome instead of directly forcing the outcome by military means.
    Is this really any different than what the British East India Company did for generations?

    And can you name a period in history where - relatively speaking - fewer people were being killed in war and by war-related causes than today?

    No?

    Think about that for a while.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    You've been watching too much of "The sky is falling!!!!!" crap coming off of Fox News and right-wing media.

    Why?

    Even with all the crap going on in the Ukraine and in the Middle East, since the fall of the Soviet Union the world has been - relatively speaking to the size of the world's population - in a Great Peace. For the past quarter century, even with all the little and seemingly big wars that have happened, the world's been relatively more peaceful (meaning, fewer people dying due to war and war-related causes) than in any comparable stretch of time I can think of in the past.

    Think about it - can you point to any quarter-century period in all recorded human history where some relatively major war wasn't going on, where genocide and war-related famine and pestilence weren't ravaging different parts of the world, to a greater relative degree than has been occurring since the fall of the USSR?

    I don't think you can.

    So relax - and remember the reason why you see so much bad news is because bad news sells better than good news...see the Chicken-Little news broadcasts for what they are: a way to make money.
    The stats are pretty clear here.

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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Actually, I agree with this. We stood on the razor's edge of a worldwide catastrophe, but thanks to nuclear weapons, we did not go to all-out war with the Soviets...and as another example, India and Pakistan have not fought any truly major battles since they both acquired nukes.
    Don't be too optimistic about the future though. The Pakistan India situation is not over and more proliferation spreads, the more probable technical or human mistakes or war escalating from regional conflicts and brouhahas loom as real dangers to us all.

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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    The stats are pretty clear here.

    Yes, that is a nice graph.

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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    You've been watching too much of "The sky is falling!!!!!" crap coming off of Fox News and right-wing media.

    Why?

    Even with all the crap going on in the Ukraine and in the Middle East, since the fall of the Soviet Union the world has been - relatively speaking to the size of the world's population - in a Great Peace. For the past quarter century, even with all the little and seemingly big wars that have happened, the world's been relatively more peaceful (meaning, fewer people dying due to war and war-related causes) than in any comparable stretch of time I can think of in the past.

    Think about it - can you point to any quarter-century period in all recorded human history where some relatively major war wasn't going on, where genocide and war-related famine and pestilence weren't ravaging different parts of the world, to a greater relative degree than has been occurring since the fall of the USSR?

    I don't think you can.

    So relax - and remember the reason why you see so much bad news is because bad news sells better than good news...see the Chicken-Little news broadcasts for what they are: a way to make money.



    The fall of the Soviet Union was one of the various results of the Pax Americana that has reigned since WW2 ended.

    The withdrawal of the influence of the USA from the world stage perpetrated by the guy in the White House is producing the fruit of the last 4 years. The years that occurred before 2008 were not of his doing.

    The stage was set for him to fail after Bush removed one of the cornerstones from the balance of power in the Middle East with no plan for the after fall. However, the failure that Obama has achieved is far and away greater than anything anyone could have predicted.

    Obama is really nothing short of a savant in destroying the USA in order to destroy the world. With the help and the ideology of the leftovers of the Weathermen Underground, he is fulfilling the dreams of the left wing radicals of the 60's and the 70's.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Is this really any different than what the British East India Company did for generations?

    And can you name a period in history where - relatively speaking - fewer people were being killed in war and by war-related causes than today?

    No?

    Think about that for a while.


    You seem to be tinkling that the last 5 or 6 years is a great example of successful statesmanship.

    The last 5 or 6 years has been an example of the mischievous nations and actors in the world in Europe, Africa, Asia, South America and the Middle East to measure the leader of our country. They have found him to be a gutless, witless, paper tiger with no courage, intelligence or ability to lead.

    The preceding period of peace that you seem to be crediting to Obama that occurred before Obama got the chance to muddle things up is not so much different than the period from 1900 to 1910.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Possibly...but unless there is a catastrophe that significantly weakens worldwide civilization, no. For instance, as long as the internet is functioning in a robust fashion, I think a true world war is unlikely. However, if for some reason the internet is torn down - say, deliberately by a nation's actions, or naturally, by a Carrington event or similar great disaster - then that may significantly increase the likelihood that the current great powers might devolve to the point where a new world war is a real possibility.

    On a related note, even with all the crap going on in the Ukraine and in the Middle East, since the fall of the Soviet Union the world has been - relatively speaking to the size of the world's population - in a Great Peace. For the past quarter century, even with all the little and seemingly big wars that have happened, the world's been relatively more peaceful (meaning, fewer people dying due to war and war-related causes) than in any comparable stretch of time I can think of in the past.

    So relax - the sky is not falling, and things are better than they seem. The glass is indeed more than half full.
    You don't need a catastrophe to significantly weaken "civilization". Looking at deaths as a measure is actually quiet asinine considering the advancement in modern medicine since WW2 For example.. Today after the creation of MASH (now Combat Support Hospitals) deaths resulting from combat wounds went down dramatically.. for example in the Korean War, if you made it to a MASH unit, you had a 97% survival rate. Then difference in type of combat. Low Intensity Conflict (Guerrilla warfare and Terrorism) is now the main way to fight. This also makes large standing armies pointless. You aren't gonna see a 1 million man army outside of China any time soon. So that also makes a difference as well.
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    Re: 100 years since the start of the first world war

    Well, since it's been 100 years...let's start another one for old times sake.

    Who wants to go to Sarajevo?

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