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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Can you at least tell me why it should be okay for a garden-variety civilian to own a military grade firearm? Do you understand this question?
    Because the act of owning a weapon is in no way infringing on your rights? Was it supposed to be a hard question?

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No, that's not what I'm trying and failing miserably to say. I don't care whether or not the original intent was to allow for every citizen to own a firearm because I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them being allowed to own how every many they want and any kind of firearm they want and I do think there are people who just shouldn't be able to own one at all. We can't know whether or not they intended to allow eveyone access to the kind of weapons available to them today and I don't think those quotes can prove they would not have sought restrictions if they were here today
    People that want to force their will on others suck.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Isn't the purpose of all weapons to kill large numbers of people in a short time? The gun became popular because it could kill more people at a faster rate than crossbows. Crossbows were popular because they could do it better than a bow. And bows could do it better than rocks.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No, that's not what I'm trying and failing miserably to say. I don't care whether or not the original intent was to allow for every citizen to own a firearm because I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them being allowed to own how every many they want and any kind of firearm they want and I do think there are people who just shouldn't be able to own one at all. We can't know whether or not they intended to allow eveyone access to the kind of weapons available to them today and I don't think those quotes can prove they would not have sought restrictions if they were here today
    What you're saying now is different from when you said "I don't mean I think those quotes aren't real (never even crossed my mind) I just don't think they prove the original intent behind the 2A".
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    A militia. The weapons not to be infringed upon are those used by a militia. A militia is infantry, not an armada, air force, nukes, etc, but standard infantry issue arms. Not ordnance, arms. There's not really a temporal consideration.
    I think it's nonsense to allow gun control idiots to ban newer weaponry.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    People that want to force their will on others suck.
    is that a confession
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    is that a confession
    Nope. I'm a voluntaryist these days. I'm all peaceful and ****.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    What you're saying now is different from when you said "I don't mean I think those quotes aren't real (never even crossed my mind) I just don't think they prove the original intent behind the 2A".
    Yes it is, I just didn't explain myself very well. Take it from me, since I was the author, that was what I was trying to say.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I think it's nonsense to allow gun control idiots to ban newer weaponry.
    Of course it is. For a militia to be viable, it must use modern tech. We have a right to defend ourselves with standard infantry issue arms of the current time.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Of course it is. For a militia to be viable, it must use modern tech. We have a right to defend ourselves with standard infantry issue arms of the current time.
    That tank coming to kill you doesn't give a **** about your pee shooter nor does that bomb care that you're on the ground running around with guns. You're still very much dead.

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