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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I don't think it is possible for others to know what he means, if he hasn't a clue himself what he means.
    That sums up this thread quite well.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    What's wrong with a handgun in those situations?
    Look ate your typical modest small caliber pistol and imagin it firing 2 or 3 times when the trigger is pulled. Would you have a problem with someone carrying a machien pistol?

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Oh, yeah you're right that could be interpreted that way. No, I don't mean I think those quotes aren't real (never even crossed my mind) I just don't think they prove the original intent behind the 2A
    The Founders stating the intent behind 2A doesn't prove the original intent behind the 2A? K
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Look ate your typical modest small caliber pistol and imagin it firing 2 or 3 times when the trigger is pulled. Would you have a problem with someone carrying a machien pistol?
    That would depend on the number of rounds it could shoot without reloading.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but wasn't that the expressed intent of the founders? for a well regulated militia to possess weapons sufficient to prevent the standing army of government from overwhelming any mass opposition
    For better or for worse, the United States military is VERY capable of overwhelming any mass opposition with today's weapon technology. So perhaps the founders would be disappointed on this score.

    Still doesn't solve the problem of why today's civilians need to have military-grade weapons.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    I can't respond to your poll if I don't understand the question. You obviously don't know enough about guns to understand the question that you asked.
    Can you at least tell me why it should be okay for a garden-variety civilian to own a military grade firearm? Do you understand this question?
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    The Founders stating the intent behind 2A doesn't prove the original intent behind the 2A? K
    No, that's not what I'm trying and failing miserably to say. I don't care whether or not the original intent was to allow for every citizen to own a firearm because I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with them being allowed to own how every many they want and any kind of firearm they want and I do think there are people who just shouldn't be able to own one at all. We can't know whether or not they intended to allow eveyone access to the kind of weapons available to them today and I don't think those quotes can prove they would not have sought restrictions if they were here today
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    For better or for worse, the United States military is VERY capable of overwhelming any mass opposition with today's weapon technology. So perhaps the founders would be disappointed on this score.

    Still doesn't solve the problem of why today's civilians need to have military-grade weapons.
    Why do you think you can restrict what people can own by claiming they don't need it? Who really cares if they need it?

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    We can't know whether or not they intended to allow eveyone access to the kind of weapons available to them today and I don't think those quotes can prove they would not have sought restrictions if they were here today
    A militia. The weapons not to be infringed upon are those used by a militia. A militia is infantry, not an armada, air force, nukes, etc, but standard infantry issue arms. Not ordnance, arms. There's not really a temporal consideration.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Can you at least tell me why it should be okay for a garden-variety civilian to own a military grade firearm? Do you understand this question?
    I understand the question but you clearly have no idea what a military grade firearm is. The military uses all kinds of weapons including basic pistols.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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