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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Could have fooled me.
    I didn't start a thread while having no idea of the subject and terminology, and then get bent when called out for ignorance.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I've made an open invitation for someone to come up with a better term. So far, everyone's copped out or been silent...
    What guns do you consider "people punching guns"?
    What are their common designations?
    There's your "better term".
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Or perhaps some semi-autos with a high enough magazine capacity should be reclassified as class-3. (I'm not for or against this idea; just saying 'maybe.')
    Magazine capacity can be fairly easily changed, I think...much easier than changing a weapon from semi-auto to full-auto.

    Or maybe I'm wrong about both of those things, I'm no expert.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Magazine capacity can be fairly easily changed, I think...much easier than changing a weapon from semi-auto to full-auto.

    Or maybe I'm wrong about both of those things, I'm no expert.
    Semi auto and fill auto are totally different animals.

    Mag capacity should have no bearing upon either of those classifications.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Semi auto and fill auto are totally different animals.

    Mag capacity should have no bearing upon either of those classifications.
    My point was that semi-auto vs full-auto are a better definition of weapon class than mag capacity, because you can more easily fit a larger mag than change a weapon from semi to full auto.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Or perhaps some semi-autos with a high enough magazine capacity should be reclassified as class-3. (I'm not for or against this idea; just saying 'maybe.')

    Magazine capacity is largely dependent on the magazine, not the firearm. Mostly it is so-called misnamed "assault rifles" (military style semi-auto rifles) with the 30 round mags Certain Persons seem to freak out about.


    Next question... why? Rifles of all sorts are used in less than 3% of murders, far less than clubs and bare hands.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Or perhaps some semi-autos with a high enough magazine capacity should be reclassified as class-3. (I'm not for or against this idea; just saying 'maybe.')
    Class 3 is an antique colector. In order for "semi-autos with a high enough magazine capacity" to be reclassified as Class-3, they would need to be banned, and only antiqu colectors would have them.

    You would have to treat every semi-auto which can accept a detachable magazien this way, because while a factory mag may only hold 6-7 rounds, an after market mag could hold considerably more. We call these "happy mags" because they're fun to have and use.

    It sounds like you want to ban semi-autos with detachable mags. People know what you're referring to when you say something like "semi-autos with detachable mags" because those are literal mechanical characteristics of a firearm, while "people-punching" is not.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Or perhaps some semi-autos with a high enough magazine capacity should be reclassified as class-3. (I'm not for or against this idea; just saying 'maybe.')
    Canada requires detachable mags to be perminantly modified to hold no more than 3 or 5 rounds, depending on the type of rifle. Fixed magaziens (such as the tube under the barrel of a shotgun) have to be pluged to meet the same limitation, but the plug doesn't have to be perminantly afixed. Removing the plug for anything other than maintenance is a serious offence.

    Please understand that you're talking to people who don't see why any kind of firearm should be completely banned. It's not that we've never heard someone offer reasons, its that we've taken an honest look at those reasons and found them to be based on fear, not facts, if not just propiganda.

    Banning guns to reduce crime is exactly like banning abortion to reduce unwanted pregnancy. You cannot use a technological solution to solve a sociological problem.
    Last edited by Jerry; 07-28-14 at 07:09 PM.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Wonderful. What is it?
    For which? There is accurate terminology for every type of gun, none for your meaningless tripe.

    Give me the definition, Ill give you the term. But until even you know WTF you're talking about, I cannot help you.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    I'm not familiar with them, so I can't formulate a valid opinion.

    Can you please provide more info about these weapons? Thank you.
    He must mean 'fists,' lol
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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