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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    This poll question refers to firearms that are designed for the primary purpose of killing several people at close or medium range in a very short time. If you answer, please explain why civilians should be able to keep them or why not.

    Also, the question has nothing to do with whether these types of firearms are legal and constitutional to own (in the US), but whether they should be.


    I have no idea what "People Punching Guns" are. If I went down to the gunstore and asked to buy one, I'm sure they'd laugh me out of the place.

    I'd have to assume you're talking about repeating weapons with the capacity of firing more than one round per reloading, as that matches the description and covers almost all modern weapons except single-shot firearms.


    The answer is yes, they should be allowed. If you need to shoot someone in self-defense, you might need more than one shot to stop them; or they might have accomplices.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    BTW, this highlights something I've said many times here.... if you're going to propose restricting guns, please have the decency to do your homework and have SOME idea of what you're talking about.


    It would at least make it easier for others to know what you mean.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    BTW, this highlights something I've said many times here.... if you're going to propose restricting guns, please have the decency to do your homework and have SOME idea of what you're talking about.


    It would at least make it easier for others to know what you mean.
    I'm not sure why this is so unclear. The OP defines these weapons as having a primary purpose of killing multiple targets within a very short time. Some, but not all, semiautomatics would fit that mold.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I'm not sure why this is so unclear. The OP defines these weapons as having a primary purpose of killing multiple targets within a very short time.
    What do you consider a short amount of time?
    Where did you get the term 'people punching guns' from?

    Some, but not all, semiautomatics would fit that mold.

    How so?
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I'm not sure why this is so unclear. The OP defines these weapons as having a primary purpose of killing multiple targets within a very short time. Some, but not all, semiautomatics would fit that mold.

    Then maybe you should have said "semiautomatics of X characteristic".


    You can potentially kill several people in a short time at close range with a 1880s style Colt Frontier revolver, or a pump shotgun of the type you'd also use for duck hunting.


    Are you trying to say "Assault weapons" without saying it, or something? Because this "people punching" term is something I've never heard before and can make no sense out of. It brings to mind the mental image someone posted of the gun-shaped toy with the fist.


    Guns don't punch people.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I voted yes.


    The second amendment was a very important right to our founders (I mean it was the second on the list after all) and one of the crucial reasons our founders thought it was so important was so that we could protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. If we allow the government to arm themselves with machine guns, and heavy weaponry while limiting the citizens to hunting rifles and 10 magazine handguns it sorta defeats the whole purpose doesn't it.
    The government has to be armed with heavy weaponry to be prepared for war. The second amendment was not created so that every citizen could have the firepower to fight their own personal wars.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    The government has to be armed with heavy weaponry to be prepared for war. The second amendment was not created so that every citizen could have the firepower to fight their own personal wars.
    So the government has more of a right to acquire goods than I do? How wonderful. Hell, it's even more wonderful that you think the government should have a better ability to defend itself than me.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    The government has to be armed with heavy weaponry to be prepared for war. The second amendment was not created so that every citizen could have the firepower to fight their own personal wars.
    No...the 2nd Amendment was created to ensure citizen soldiers could augment the military and serve as a last line of defense in a worst case scenario. They ABSOLUTELY intended for the average citizen to possess military grade firearms. The right to self defense and hunting weapons was a given. They would have **** on anyone stupid enough to believe that citizens should be deprived of the right to self defense. Their words AND actions spoke very clearly as to their intent.

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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Then maybe you should have said "semiautomatics of X characteristic".
    Fair enough.
    You can potentially kill several people in a short time at close range with a 1880s style Colt Frontier revolver, or a pump shotgun of the type you'd also use for duck hunting.
    Neither one of these was designed with the primary purpose of killing large numbers of people, however.
    Are you trying to say "Assault weapons" without saying it, or something?
    Not my intention, but as far as I know, most if not all assault weapons would qualify. In addition, there'd be some firearms that technically aren't assault weapons but would still qualify.
    Because this "people punching" term is something I've never heard before and can make no sense out of. It brings to mind the mental image someone posted of the gun-shaped toy with the fist.

    Guns don't punch people.
    Point taken: I'll try to stay away from the term for the rest of the thread.
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    re: 'People punching' guns[W:249]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...the 2nd Amendment was created to ensure citizen soldiers could augment the military and serve as a last line of defense in a worst case scenario. They ABSOLUTELY intended for the average citizen to possess military grade firearms. The right to self defense and hunting weapons was a given. They would have **** on anyone stupid enough to believe that citizens should be deprived of the right to self defense. Their words AND actions spoke very clearly as to their intent.
    And military grade weapons in the 18th century couldn't do much beyond individual self defense and hunting, so it was a moot point at the time.
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