View Poll Results: The NRA mandatory school shooting plan? Good idea or not a good idea?

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  • yes, no passing shooting grade and the child may not advance to the next grade

    3 6.52%
  • no, shooting lessons I totally support but it should not determine passing to the next grade

    19 41.30%
  • the NRA has completely/partly lost the plot

    5 10.87%
  • the NRA should get the Nobel peace prize for this idea

    2 4.35%
  • No, I am going to teach my kid myself how to shoot

    5 10.87%
  • No, shooting lessons have no place at schools

    19 41.30%
  • teaching potential young gangbangers better schooting skills is not a good idea

    6 13.04%
  • I have no kids

    3 6.52%
  • I do not care one way or another

    1 2.17%
  • other ........... (please explain

    5 10.87%
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    Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Make shooting lessons mandatory at schools, this is what Bill Johnson has said in a video from NRA News.

    He said that kids are learning how to read and write and that these are deemed necessary skills, but if it were up to him (and I would assume the NRA or they would not have made this clip/released it) shooting would also be a skill that was learned at school from now on.

    But he goes one step further to thumb the NRA nose at parents who will not allow guns in the house or who are anti-guns, learning to shoot guns at school would become mandatory if a child wishes to advance to the next grade. In other words, if your kid (even though you are vehemently against guns) wants to go to the next grade at school he will have to complete a gun shooting course or he will be held back.

    I was aware that the second Amendment guarantees the right to bear arms, but now the NRA wants to force guns and shooting even upon children and parents who do not want to bear arms or to shoot arms.

    So the question is, how desirable is it to have mandatory gun lessons at school in order to advance to the next grade?

    I read this story on the website of a Dutch newspaper but an English version of this story can be found here NRA
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    I think they could fit it in on the days they aren't learning to put a condom on a banana.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Classes in shooting guns should NOT be mandatory. This is purely a political move by a group which has seen firearm ownership drop as a share of the American population and is desperate to get it up again. The NRA became a increasingly political organization after the 1977 Cincinnati revolt with a sharp turn to the right. They are concerned about their political power and see this as a step to protect it.

    When I taught government for three decades, I always made it a part of the lesson on the Second Amendment to urge any student interested in owning a gun to take advantage of the NRA classes in firearms ownership and use. And many did. But this should be voluntary and outside of the normal school system.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    He said that kids are learning how to read and write and that these are deemed necessary skills, but if it were up to him (and I would assume the NRA or they would not have made this clip/released it) shooting would also be a skill that was learned at school from now on.
    the disclaimer on the video says "The following video contains the opinion of an NRA News commentator and does not necessarily reflect the views of other individuals or organizations" had you bothered actually watching the video

    Way to use the opinion of one nutjob to demonize an entire group

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    I'm fine with schools offering shooting lessons. I don't see that as any different than offering home economics, shop, or driving lessons. They should not be mandatory though, and should have no impact on a student's ability to progress to the next grade.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    the disclaimer on the video says "The following video contains the opinion of an NRA News commentator and does not necessarily reflect the views of other individuals or organizations" had you bothered actually watching the video

    Way to use the opinion of one nutjob to demonize an entire group
    Well, this Nutjob is promoting his views on an NRA website/news source. I also said, I would assume they agree with him even if they do not say it out load (not necessarily reflect does not mean we do not agree with him).

    And you may be of the opinion I "demonized someone" but I do not agree with you on that one.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, this Nutjob is promoting his views on an NRA website/news source. I also said, I would assume they agree with him even if they do not say it out load (not necessarily reflect does not mean we do not agree with him).

    And you may be of the opinion I "demonized someone" but I do not agree with you on that one.
    Your poll option about gangbangers gave your bias away.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Your poll option about gangbangers gave your bias away.
    How on earth can anyone think that the "gangbangers" comment was meant seriously? Maybe that is your bias showing, not mine.

    It seems that some people are absolutely unable to view anything without being in "outrage" mode.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    How on earth can anyone think that the "gangbangers" comment was meant seriously? Maybe that is your bias showing, not mine.

    It seems that some people are absolutely unable to view anything without being in "outrage" mode.
    You could have just as easily posted an option that it teaches young people responsibility and not to fear fire arms, but you didn't.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You could have just as easily posted an option that it teaches young people responsibility and not to fear fire arms, but you didn't.
    Then you and I have a very different opinion about the option "other .............. (please explain)

    You only have 10 options so I decided to put down these options and leave one open for people with other opinions.
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