View Poll Results: The NRA mandatory school shooting plan? Good idea or not a good idea?

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  • yes, no passing shooting grade and the child may not advance to the next grade

    3 6.52%
  • no, shooting lessons I totally support but it should not determine passing to the next grade

    19 41.30%
  • the NRA has completely/partly lost the plot

    5 10.87%
  • the NRA should get the Nobel peace prize for this idea

    2 4.35%
  • No, I am going to teach my kid myself how to shoot

    5 10.87%
  • No, shooting lessons have no place at schools

    19 41.30%
  • teaching potential young gangbangers better schooting skills is not a good idea

    6 13.04%
  • I have no kids

    3 6.52%
  • I do not care one way or another

    1 2.17%
  • other ........... (please explain

    5 10.87%
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yes bring out your bias, as I said your poll and this thread are biased. Let's get your real feelings out on the table. And an foreigner trying to dictate what goes on in another country.....that's astounding.
    Yes, because Conservatives never have biased polls or threads.

    Being critical of guns is a bias I am proud of. What you are stating in this tread is totally biased too, namely your opinion/bias. You can complain about my bias but as this is my thread, my poll (which I think is a fair poll, it is not like some polls where you have no reasonable answer to give or is a yes/no poll and ignores the other options), but stating your opinion is not against the rules last time I checked. Nor is it against the rules to show to some degree ones bias in the OP or in the thread.

    You have the right to fill in the poll options showing your bias and you can post your biased opinions here too.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    But not a school education. There it has to be about learning from a generally accepted/mandatory curriculum. Extra curricular activities as gun shooting is for the parents themselves to organize or choose.
    People said the same thing about sex-ed. Thing is, not every parent teaches their child about guns just as many parents avoid ever adressing birth control. Therefore the school needs to pick up a basic gun saftey coarse to do what many parents won't.

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, because Conservatives never have biased polls or threads.

    Being critical of guns is a bias I am proud of. What you are stating in this tread is totally biased too, namely your opinion/bias. You can complain about my bias but as this is my thread, my poll (which I think is a fair poll, it is not like some polls where you have no reasonable answer to give or is a yes/no poll and ignores the other options), but stating your opinion is not against the rules last time I checked. Nor is it against the rules to show to some degree ones bias in the OP or in the thread.

    You have the right to fill in the poll options showing your bias and you can post your biased opinions here too.
    You tried to deny the bias, when I pointed it out. I've never stated that I have no bias.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    No, shooting classes should be mandatory. However I do think it would be a good idea to make a class that taught how to handle guns SAFELY should be mandatory. Don't need to use real guns if an object is actually needed for such. Could be a toy gun (in fact I'd prefer it). This could help prevent many accidental shootings that happen.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, because Conservatives never have biased polls or threads.

    Being critical of guns is a bias I am proud of. What you are stating in this tread is totally biased too, namely your opinion/bias. You can complain about my bias but as this is my thread, my poll (which I think is a fair poll, it is not like some polls where you have no reasonable answer to give or is a yes/no poll and ignores the other options), but stating your opinion is not against the rules last time I checked. Nor is it against the rules to show to some degree ones bias in the OP or in the thread.

    You have the right to fill in the poll options showing your bias and you can post your biased opinions here too.
    I have to agree here. I am likewise biased, thoe in favor of guns. There is nothing wrong with being biased yourself. The problem is only when a source is biased. You yourself are more than welcome to be biased, having made up your mind on an issue and argue from a position.

    Without biased people this whole website would be boring.

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    People said the same thing about sex-ed. Thing is, not every parent teaches their child about guns just as many parents avoid ever adressing birth control. Therefore the school needs to pick up a basic gun saftey coarse to do what many parents won't.
    Except that sex education is part of biology lessons. And there are plenty of people who home school so that their children do not have to get some subjects taught on schools or so that they can add their subjective view on those subjects to these subjects.

    Virtually everybody is going to have sex at some time in their life, learning the birds and the bees stuff is nothing more than logical.

    A lot of people will never own or handle a firearm. In fact more and more households are gun free (compared to a few decades ago). And it is not that I am against people learning to shoot guns, especially in areas of the country where they will most likely at some time have to fire weapons (to protect themselves from dangerous animals) but that is the duty of the parents to teach their children, not the school system.

    In most discussion conservatives want to limit the influence of government on their lives but when it comes to their "opinions" all of that against government/big government is thrown out the window. Just like this issue, it is for the parents of the individuals to decide whether or not a child comes in contact with weapons. Not the NRA, not the government or the Republican party/conservatives.

    I would not even have a problem if the government subsidizes safe gun classes for teenagers but not at schools. That at least is my opinion.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You tried to deny the bias, when I pointed it out. I've never stated that I have no bias.
    I stated that my poll was not biased. I never said I was not biased.

    My poll gives all kinds of options, the first one is totally in accordance with the view of the NRA, the second one says that it is OK to have shooting lessons at school but should not have any negative effect on passing or not, then I have the option "no, I am going to teach my kids myself".

    Those are very pro-gun biased opinions, but there are also anti-gun options and "other opinions". That is how opinion polls work.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I have to agree here. I am likewise biased, thoe in favor of guns. There is nothing wrong with being biased yourself. The problem is only when a source is biased. You yourself are more than welcome to be biased, having made up your mind on an issue and argue from a position.

    Without biased people this whole website would be boring.
    And that is why, I gave people who agree with shooting/the NRA or this plan options to vote in this poll according to their views. It would have been wrong to only give answers I like in this poll.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Except that sex education is part of biology lessons.
    I would like to see a 'life skills' class covering driving, first aid, personal finance, basic cooking, using a gun, using a fire extinguisher, etc. The gun thing would just be a small part of that class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    And there are plenty of people who home school so that their children do not have to get some subjects taught on schools or so that they can add their subjective view on those subjects to these subjects.
    Yup, and thats fine. Home school isn't public school. Totaly diferent subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    A lot of people will never own or handle a firearm. In fact more and more households are gun free (compared to a few decades ago). And it is not that I am against people learning to shoot guns, especially in areas of the country where they will most likely at some time have to fire weapons (to protect themselves from dangerous animals) but that is the duty of the parents to teach their children, not the school system.
    We have no way of knowing who will and who won't, therefore we should educate everyone.

    You know, I have never needed to know anything about the French revolution, nor have I ever used algeba, so I guess you would say we should remove world history and algebra from the manditory curriculum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    In most discussion conservatives want to limit the influence of government on their lives but when it comes to their "opinions" all of that against government/big government is thrown out the window. Just like this issue, it is for the parents of the individuals to decide whether or not a child comes in contact with weapons. Not the NRA, not the government or the Republican party/conservatives.
    You're talking to someone who would very much like the Department of Education abolished, or at least highschool replaced with vo-tech. Reality is that's not going to happen. So, a nice middle-ground compromise is to have a more Conservative curriculum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I would not even have a problem if the government subsidizes safe gun classes for teenagers but not at schools. That at least is my opinion.
    Schools are institutions of learning, so schools are the perfect place to have any kind of class, including guns. Many schools have a gun as their mascot and fire it at events. Many school track coaches use a pistol to start races. Some schools have gun clubs where students bring their gun on campus. Some states already allow reguler people to carry their personal loaded sidearm onto campus.

    Its just not a big deal to have guns or gun education in the school.

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No, shooting classes should be mandatory. However I do think it would be a good idea to make a class that taught how to handle guns SAFELY should be mandatory. Don't need to use real guns if an object is actually needed for such. Could be a toy gun (in fact I'd prefer it). This could help prevent many accidental shootings that happen.
    I totally agree with you.
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