View Poll Results: The NRA mandatory school shooting plan? Good idea or not a good idea?

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  • yes, no passing shooting grade and the child may not advance to the next grade

    3 6.52%
  • no, shooting lessons I totally support but it should not determine passing to the next grade

    19 41.30%
  • the NRA has completely/partly lost the plot

    5 10.87%
  • the NRA should get the Nobel peace prize for this idea

    2 4.35%
  • No, I am going to teach my kid myself how to shoot

    5 10.87%
  • No, shooting lessons have no place at schools

    19 41.30%
  • teaching potential young gangbangers better schooting skills is not a good idea

    6 13.04%
  • I have no kids

    3 6.52%
  • I do not care one way or another

    1 2.17%
  • other ........... (please explain

    5 10.87%
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Some parents aren't equipped to do, and may choose to allow the school to teach it.
    Then they can have an NRA course do that. Schools should promote learning and wisdom, not shooting.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think it should be mandatory in a sense of a firearm handling and safety class. In this country we tell kids to not talk to look both ways before crossing the street they do not get ran over.We tell kids don't talk to strangers so that chester the child molester doesn't abduct them. We tell kids to not do drugs so that they do not get addicted to drugs. We have sex ed classes tell preach the dangers of STDs and unwanted pregnancy. I have even seen commercials telling kids to not send naked pics of themselves to their boyfriends or else they could end up being called the town slut. We have at least 70-80 million firearm owners and at least 310 million firearms in this country in this country as of 2009. That means a lot of households with guns and a huge chance that children may encounter a firearm. So one would think it would be common sense teaching kids about firearm safety and proper handling.
    Then teach them to not ever touch a gun. Just like people just want to teach abstinence only sex education. I think teaching kids to not touch guns is smarter and more realistic than teaching kids nothing else but abstinence.

    You can teach children about gun safety but shooting guns is not needed to learn gun safety IMHO. Teaching gun safety is fine but it should be down to the individual parents to make the choice of whether they want to teach their child proper handling of guns. It is not like everyone in the USA will at some time own guns or use guns.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    I have no problem with it being an elective.... but not compulsory.


    I took the NRA course in 6th grade myself... firearm education is a good thing.

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Then they can have an NRA course do that. Schools should promote learning and wisdom, not shooting.
    there's no reason for schools to ignore a subject that is integral to the American way.

    an elective course in gun safety/basic marksmanship be nothing but a good thing.

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Classes in shooting guns should NOT be mandatory. This is purely a political move by a group which has seen firearm ownership drop as a share of the American population and is desperate to get it up again. The NRA became a increasingly political organization after the 1977 Cincinnati revolt with a sharp turn to the right. They are concerned about their political power and see this as a step to protect it.

    When I taught government for three decades, I always made it a part of the lesson on the Second Amendment to urge any student interested in owning a gun to take advantage of the NRA classes in firearms ownership and use. And many did. But this should be voluntary and outside of the normal school system.
    I partially agree. it shouldn't be forced on people



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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    anonymous polls sucketh



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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    But it is the right to bear arms, the right to own arms, not a duty or a rule that people ought to/have to have a gun. Richard Henry Lee lived in the revolutionary part of US history, where the lack of an army meant that it was down to the population with guns to protect the fledgling USA. To protect the liberty of the United States from it's enemies there is now an army of the people for the people. Not the entire population needs to be armed to protect the US from enemies.
    To say that because we have government to protect us from our enemies, and therefore do not need to be prepared to protect yourself misses a vital point, which is that our government itself may very well be the enemy against whom we need to be protected. I think it is undeniable at this time, the way our government is spiraling out of control, that we are rapidly approaching the time when it may indeed routinely become necessary for us to be prepared to use the force of arms to defend ourselves against it.

    It is certainly obvious why the current administration is so desperate to undermine the Second Amendment. Surely Obama and his stooges know very well how close they are getting to the line where Americans will have every right and reason to meet the abuses of government with armed force.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    To say that because we have government to protect us from our enemies, and therefore do not need to be prepared to protect yourself misses a vital point, which is that our government itself may very well be the enemy against whom we need to be protected. I think it is undeniable at this time, the way our government is spiraling out of control, that we are rapidly approaching the time when it may indeed routinely become necessary for us to be prepared to use the force of arms to defend ourselves against it.

    It is certainly obvious why the current administration is so desperate to undermine the Second Amendment. Surely Obama and his stooges know very well how close they are getting to the line where Americans will have every right and reason to meet the abuses of government with armed force.
    But still, it is the right to bear arms and not the duty to bear arms or the moral obligation to own guns.

    And it may be my Dutch weirdness, but I have never understood the animosity, mistrust and to some extent even hatred/anxiety/paranoia/fear of persecution of/to ones own government.

    And it is very deniable IMHO to state that they government is heading to a state in which armed revolt against the government is needed. You live in a democracy, if you do not like your government, change it. A group becoming so paranoid that they take up arms against their own government is not "defending yourself" but an illegal insurgency IMHO. You are no longer living in a state without legal, electoral and lawful ways to oppose and challenge the government, guns are no longer a justifiable way to "defend" your rights unless you are being violently attacked without any reason whatsoever.

    And it is not Obama and his stooges, but a majority of American people who at least want some laws to regulate gun sales and a large group of people even want more strict gun laws. A government is not only there to support or vent the opinions of the gun owners but also those of the people against gun ownership without any rules.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    The NRA's new stories is basically comedy hour these days.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    The NRA's new stories is basically comedy hour these days.
    The anti gun press is pretty much the real laugh in



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