View Poll Results: The NRA mandatory school shooting plan? Good idea or not a good idea?

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  • yes, no passing shooting grade and the child may not advance to the next grade

    3 6.52%
  • no, shooting lessons I totally support but it should not determine passing to the next grade

    19 41.30%
  • the NRA has completely/partly lost the plot

    5 10.87%
  • the NRA should get the Nobel peace prize for this idea

    2 4.35%
  • No, I am going to teach my kid myself how to shoot

    5 10.87%
  • No, shooting lessons have no place at schools

    19 41.30%
  • teaching potential young gangbangers better schooting skills is not a good idea

    6 13.04%
  • I have no kids

    3 6.52%
  • I do not care one way or another

    1 2.17%
  • other ........... (please explain

    5 10.87%
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Thread: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Like knowing how to treat jellyfish stings. You won't need it until you *need* it.

    Key life skill? No.
    If you live in a place with lots of jellyfish around, yes, that **** can kill you.

    America is a place with lots of guns around.

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Those are things I'd consider key life skills, while gun handling is not.

    As something extra curricular then that's fine (like how schools might offer after-school martial arts class/theatre/wrestling or something) but I don't agree it should be part of any curriculum/lessons.
    Driving maybe, but I would argue that no more people regularly make use of cooking or shop skills than do shooting skills. There are a ton of people out there who can't cook worth a damn or who don't know how to fix anything that goes wrong with their car or house.

    And I do consider basic gun safety a key life skill. Maybe not how to shoot, but how to behave safely around a gun. Because even if you don't own one, chances are very good that someone you know does.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Driving maybe, but I would argue that no more people regularly make use of cooking or shop skills than do shooting skills. There are a ton of people out there who can't cook worth a damn or who don't know how to fix anything that goes wrong with their car or house.
    Regarding the list of things taught at school which most never use, I'd like to add World History, algebra, and squaredancing.

    Those are fine for acidemics, but ive nevet needed them. I have needed trigonometry, but I didn't learn it in highschool, I learned it in a vo-tech course.

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Make shooting lessons mandatory at schools, this is what Bill Johnson has said in a video from NRA News.

    He said that kids are learning how to read and write and that these are deemed necessary skills, but if it were up to him (and I would assume the NRA or they would not have made this clip/released it) shooting would also be a skill that was learned at school from now on.

    But he goes one step further to thumb the NRA nose at parents who will not allow guns in the house or who are anti-guns, learning to shoot guns at school would become mandatory if a child wishes to advance to the next grade. In other words, if your kid (even though you are vehemently against guns) wants to go to the next grade at school he will have to complete a gun shooting course or he will be held back.

    I was aware that the second Amendment guarantees the right to bear arms, but now the NRA wants to force guns and shooting even upon children and parents who do not want to bear arms or to shoot arms.

    So the question is, how desirable is it to have mandatory gun lessons at school in order to advance to the next grade?

    I read this story on the website of a Dutch newspaper but an English version of this story can be found here NRA

    So other countries are investing in academics and our counter to this is investing in our kid's ability to properly bust a cap in someone *** ????


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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    So other countries are investing in academics and our counter to this is investing in our kid's ability to properly bust a cap in someone *** ????

    And if we are on this issue, of investing in academics, US schools IMO are also way too far into sports. It is not the job of a school to have a competitive soccer, baseball, American football, track team, etc. etc. etc.

    That these sports are promoted as part of PE is fine, but scholarships should be for brilliant minds first and brilliant in sports second and not the other way around.

    I do appreciate though that I cannot compare it to the Netherlands, here there are loads of sporting teams outside of schools. Mostly because loads of people live in a relatively limited area (squared miles wise) and in the US schools are much more the focus of whole areas (from what I see about the American school system). In the Netherlands only special schools have a school bus. All other schools have parents who bring them or mostly kids will go to school on their own. Everywhere there are bike lanes along dangerous roads. For the earliest school going children there are crossing guards and children as young as 6 or 7 walk to school on their own, or cycle there. At junior high level there is virtually no parent who drops off their child, most if not all come by bike. Those who live close to the school walk there.

    The only way forward to a better economy IMO is great education.
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you live in a place with lots of jellyfish around, yes, that **** can kill you.

    America is a place with lots of guns around.
    There's a serious flaw in that analogy. Just because you remove jellyfish from the seas, doesn't mean you've gotten rid of all the predators that want to eat you...

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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Surely, I can't be the only one here who mistook an R for a B in the title and was thinking

    "Well, duh!"
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    Re: Newest NRA campaign idea, make learning to shoot mandatory in school

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Surely, I can't be the only one here who mistook an R for a B in the title and was thinking

    "Well, duh!"
    Well we just can't have basketball in public school, that's just an NBA agenda item ;P

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