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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    HAd Michael Sams come out and said "BTW...I'm gay. Now...game on" I dont think anyone would have had too much concern. Unfortunately he made it a spectacle not by his announcement but by his follow on actions. Dood hasnt even reported to training camp and he signed on to do a "reality" show. He and his handlers went out of their way to make this be about everything BUT the game. Thats the kind of distraction that has been mentioned and it is the same kind of freak show mentality that Johnny Manziel brought with him.

    A reporter did a breakdown of Sams the day after he came out as being gay. What the film showed was that he was undersized, lacked speed, didnt have a strong pass rushing presence. They also broke down his play against those players that would not be even considered as an NFL prospect vs those that were NFL caliber college players. Results..beast mode against the first group, zip against the second. "A majority of his production came in three games against inferior competition without a need to show much of a pass-rushing repertoire. He doesnít show much of what the NFL looks for on special teams, and itís difficult to project a position for him on the next level. For those reasons, Sam would project to be no better than a mid- to late-round pick. He could go undrafted."

    And thats from a guy that likes him and thinks he actually could make it on the right team with the right set of circumstances.
    You want to make a bet that when the season starts sams will be on the active roster for the rams?The winner of the bet gets to choose the losers aviator for a month.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    You want to make a bet that when the season starts sams will be on the active roster for the rams?The winner of the bet gets to choose the losers aviator for a month.
    No bet. Its a no win situation. Cut him and get excoriated. Keep him and even if the team is horrible they will still get some press and a crowd.
    The whole point is...its not about the game.

    Frankly though...I'm not altogether married to the avatar...so...pick a better side-bet and you are on. Over and under on his QB sacks? Overall tackles? Percentage of playing time? or non-Sams related...my team is the Broncos, so...best overall record?

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No bet. Its a no win situation. Cut him and get excoriated. Keep him and even if the team is horrible they will still get some press and a crowd.
    The whole point is...its not about the game.

    Frankly though...I'm not altogether married to the avatar...so...pick a better side-bet and you are on. Over and under on his QB sacks? Overall tackles? Percentage of playing time? or non-Sams related...my team is the Broncos, so...best overall record?
    Actually Fisher has him pegged for special teams. Told him when he reports to be under his combine weight. Samís dropped 13 pounds.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Actually Fisher has him pegged for special teams. Told him when he reports to be under his combine weight. Sam’s dropped 13 pounds.
    Yep..THATS what teams are always looking for. Special teams players. Drop 13 pounds to play on special teams (which will make him even more undersized for a defensive linesman. Not bad for the SEC defensive player of the year.

    No special interest motivation there.

    SO...whaddya say...sack count? Kearse has the rookie sack record at 14.5. Kearse was a beast. Half of that and I'll spot you the .5. 7 or better and you pick em on the avatar. Deal?

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yep..THATS what teams are always looking for. Special teams players. Drop 13 pounds to play on special teams (which will make him even more undersized for a defensive linesman. Not bad for the SEC defensive player of the year.

    No special interest motivation there.

    SO...whaddya say...sack count? Kearse has the rookie sack record at 14.5. Kearse was a beast. Half of that and I'll spot you the .5. 7 or better and you pick em on the avatar. Deal?
    Sams not going to have a chance at defensive line on the Rams.Look at the line that they had last year and look at the beast(Aaron Donald ) that they drafted.Both longs are healthy this year.Samís is going against undrafted Ethan Westbrooks for the fifth spot on DE. Thatís why I said that he better get used to special teams and becoming a passing situations specialist.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yep..THATS what teams are always looking for. Special teams players. Drop 13 pounds to play on special teams (which will make him even more undersized for a defensive linesman. Not bad for the SEC defensive player of the year.

    No special interest motivation there.

    SO...whaddya say...sack count? Kearse has the rookie sack record at 14.5. Kearse was a beast. Half of that and I'll spot you the .5. 7 or better and you pick em on the avatar. Deal?
    Jevon Kearse was also the 16th pick in the draft and a bona fide stud coming into the league.

    Yes, quite often in the seventh round teams ARE looking for special teams contributors.

    I do not understand the almost pathological need from some esteemed members of our community to **** all over Michael Sam because they don't like his sexual orientation.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Jevon Kearse was also the 16th pick in the draft and a bona fide stud coming into the league.

    Yes, quite often in the seventh round teams ARE looking for special teams contributors.

    I do not understand the almost pathological need from some esteemed members of our community to **** all over Michael Sam because they don't like his sexual orientation.
    Fisher drafted him because he found a bargain the 7th round. He doesnít give a **** about his sexual preferences. Look at the teams he has on his sked,Seahawks,Niners. NAH! Fish isnít making a statement; he wants a winning team.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Fisher drafted him because he found a bargain the 7th round. He doesn’t give a **** about his sexual preferences. Look at the teams he has on his sked,Seahawks,Niners. NAH! Fish isn’t making a statement; he wants a winning team.
    That division is nasty this year. The Seahawks and Niners are obviously at or near the top of the league; nobody wanted any part of the Cardinals at the end of last season (their defense is almost as good as Seattle's); and the Rams are stocked with young talent (thanks in large part to the RG3 trade).
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Jevon Kearse was also the 16th pick in the draft and a bona fide stud coming into the league.

    Yes, quite often in the seventh round teams ARE looking for special teams contributors.

    I do not understand the almost pathological need from some esteemed members of our community to **** all over Michael Sam because they don't like his sexual orientation.
    Kearse IS a beast which is why offered half of his sack count in what is often called a 'counter offer' to the friendly wager in what I assume was a friendly and rather light hearted discussion Donc and I were having. Then, you did what you always do...wade in with your prissy little bitchy drama queen act. Geeeeeezus...you must be a ****ing drag in bars and at parties. Are you even CAPABLE of being normal?

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Sams not going to have a chance at defensive line on the Rams.Look at the line that they had last year and look at the beast(Aaron Donald ) that they drafted.Both longs are healthy this year.Sam’s is going against undrafted Ethan Westbrooks for the fifth spot on DE. That’s why I said that he better get used to special teams and becoming a passing situations specialist.
    1-no teams draft converted offensive lineman EVER to be special teams specialists, and 2-his pass rushing was one of his weakest playing points.

    Now that Kobie did what Kobie always does and **** on a perfectly friendly conversation...

    A 'pass rushing specialist' sack count of 6 then? deal?

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