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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Geez, exactly how do those guys get away with that gay ass behavior and not get endlessly taunted? If some dude commented on my penis I would taunt his ass endlessly for the rest of time.

    Regardless, it's disturbing behavior to be straight and be commenting on another guys penis and slapping other guys asses. I'm not convinced their not gay or at least bisexual frankly. It's gay behavior, imho.
    If everyone is doing it, then the majority would turn on anyone taunting someone for commenting on their penis. Not that hard to figure out.

    The majority are not gay. It is simply attempting to display masculinity, with physical displays that aren't going to harm their teammates/friends/fellow service members/whoever and attempts to either build up or make them look bad in front of others. We had guys who would tell the girls someone was "small" or someone was "really big".
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I highly doubt it's not a problem for those guys. It's just that they deal with it much like they deal with the fact they are showering with other guys. Some of which seem to enjoy looking at other guys penises and yet claim they are not gay. :/

    When you are required to do something and you can't say no or quit your job you have no choice in the matter. The military has many things about it that are comparable to slavery, really.
    More likely is not that they "enjoy looking" but rather that they notice and things that appear "odd" stick in your mind, even when it is something you saw naked.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You would probably be surprised how many guys care.
    I don't think she really understands the situation much. She said in another thread that you get used to showering with other people. That isn't even close to true according to studies into the issue.

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    More likely is not that they "enjoy looking" but rather that they notice and things that appear "odd" stick in your mind, even when it is something you saw naked.
    Lol, I have heard plenty of stories of people looking and then commenting on size and other characteristics of the other men in the shower. Most of the time it's to mock, but other times not so much. Even to mock is pretty gay behavior since you are taking the time to not only look, but to figure out how to comment on it.

    There is plenty about human behavior I don't understand, but this behavior is without a doubt gay.

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    In what capacity? The question begs to be asked were you nude?
    Only down to my bra and panties, but still did it for about 4-5 months when I was the only girl, couldn't wear coveralls to work, coveralls were the expected and best uniform to wear, the guys were changing in the shop we worked in, and the closest place to change for me would have been a 5 or so minute walk away. Easier to get permission to change there than put up with the hassle. They guys didn't mind, neither did I. Now, they didn't joke about me (they were always weary of sexual harassment charges, eventhough it takes a lot for me to consider something "harassment"), but they certainly would make comments on each other, naked or not.

    But some of the stuff from the heads and berthing came out in the plant.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lol, I have heard plenty of stories of people looking and then commenting on size and other characteristics of the other men in the shower. Most of the time it's to mock, but other times not so much. Even to mock is pretty gay behavior since you are taking the time to not only look, but to figure out how to comment on it.

    There is plenty about human behavior I don't understand, but this behavior is without a doubt gay.
    No that is not "gay behavior" at all. That is human behavior that has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality. I don't look at another woman's boobs and feel attraction, but that doesn't mean I can't comment on how flat or large a woman might be, with or without clothes on. There is nothing "gay" about that.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The contention was that what goes on in the locker room, as in who is showering with whom in that locker room will somehow affect how the fans view the team, likely negatively. That contention is ridiculous because they are not going to act the same in their locker room when they know that others are around or watching as they do when there is no one around. In all likelihood, NFL players probably act better in the locker rooms though than military personnel and high school or college football players, and there are plenty of gays in all those locker rooms.
    You are confusing two separate issues, military life and pro sports. Not a mesh. Sorry.

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Only down to my bra and panties, but still did it for about 4-5 months when I was the only girl, couldn't wear coveralls to work, coveralls were the expected and best uniform to wear, the guys were changing in the shop we worked in, and the closest place to change for me would have been a 5 or so minute walk away. Easier to get permission to change there than put up with the hassle. They guys didn't mind, neither did I. Now, they didn't joke about me (they were always weary of sexual harassment charges, eventhough it takes a lot for me to consider something "harassment"), but they certainly would make comments on each other, naked or not.

    But some of the stuff from the heads and berthing came out in the plant.
    According to CPwill miltary men play a game where they put their balls on each others faces and if a man refuses that man is gay. Tell me how that makes sense and tell me exactly how wanting your genitals on someone face of your own sex is not gay? That game also includes sexual acts, but of course Cpwill denied that aspect of it. lol.

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No that is not "gay behavior" at all. That is human behavior that has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality. I don't look at another woman's boobs and feel attraction, but that doesn't mean I can't comment on how flat or large a woman might be, with or without clothes on. There is nothing "gay" about that.
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    No, it's not gay because it deals in attraction, but gay because the man feels compelled to look and comment. Sorry, I'm defining the term gay in a more slang sort of way. A way you most likely reject. Sorry, but a man that does that deserves mockery.

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't think she really understands the situation much. She said in another thread that you get used to showering with other people. That isn't even close to true according to studies into the issue.
    Showering with other people is all about your attitude toward being naked and seeing others naked. The more you view the naked body as sexual, the more uncomfortable you will feel about it. Not everyone does. And after a while of being forced to shower with others, you realize that just being in the shower with others around you, all being naked has nothing to do with sex (unless you had some traumatic experience in the past). The issue mainly is that many people aren't willing to do it often enough to truly see that it doesn't matter and being naked isn't about sex at all most of the time.
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