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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I think he is wrong mainly because all NFL players have the potential to become a huge media distraction. Vick is one good example, and this guy mentored Vick after he served his time. There are many others though who have brought media attention to themselves, some do so on a regular basis. It is the nature of being a professional athlete in a well-known league that brings media attention in itself. Extra brought on by something like being openly gay is not going to be that much compared to just being a player. People have fairly short attention spans.
    One big difference is that Vick's potential was well known based on his previous performance which would make dealing with the distractions more tolerable for a team. Sam, not so much.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    I disagree with his comments but have no problem with him expressing his opinion.

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I have been the only woman in several rooms full of men being in the military. I've changed with men while in the military. I know a lot about what goes on in mens locker rooms.
    In what capacity? The question begs to be asked were you nude?
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    A bunch of dudes that likely do things like make fun of each other's penises and hit each other on the butts with towels?
    Geez, exactly how do those guys get away with that gay ass behavior and not get endlessly taunted? If some dude commented on my penis I would taunt his ass endlessly for the rest of time.

    Regardless, it's disturbing behavior to be straight and be commenting on another guys penis and slapping other guys asses. I'm not convinced their not gay or at least bisexual frankly. It's gay behavior, imho.

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    What is your point? Are you saying Ram players lose credibility or some kind of man card with fans for possibly showering with an openly gay guy?


    Frankly, my dear, as a football fan myself I don't give a damn.
    I can tell you as a straight man I would be uncomfortable dressing and showering with someone I knew was gay. I am not a homophobe but I am sure some on the left will call me that.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Soap on a rope.

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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And most guys don't care. If they did, the very fact that football players shower with other guys at all, no matter their sexuality, would bother them. This is just looking for an excuse.

    You would probably be surprised how many guys care.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Tell that to the Miami Dolphins.
    The contention was that what goes on in the locker room, as in who is showering with whom in that locker room will somehow affect how the fans view the team, likely negatively. That contention is ridiculous because they are not going to act the same in their locker room when they know that others are around or watching as they do when there is no one around. In all likelihood, NFL players probably act better in the locker rooms though than military personnel and high school or college football players, and there are plenty of gays in all those locker rooms.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You would probably be surprised how many guys care.
    Very few guys care unless they are right there inside the locker room with them or believe something is going on. It is like changing your view on those in the military because now openly gay guys are showering with the straight guys eventhough it isn't you showering with the gay guys, nor is this really a problem for those actually in the showers with the gay guys.
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    Re: Do you agree or disagree with Tony Dungys's comments about gay player Michael Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Very few guys care unless they are right there inside the locker room with them or believe something is going on. It is like changing your view on those in the military because now openly gay guys are showering with the straight guys eventhough it isn't you showering with the gay guys, nor is this really a problem for those actually in the showers with the gay guys.
    I highly doubt it's not a problem for those guys. It's just that they deal with it much like they deal with the fact they are showering with other guys. Some of which seem to enjoy looking at other guys penises and yet claim they are not gay. :/

    When you are required to do something and you can't say no or quit your job you have no choice in the matter. The military has many things about it that are comparable to slavery, really.

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