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For Democratic voters

for democratic voters

  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 12 30.8%

  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 27 69.2%
  • Total voters
    39
eohrnberger said:
Problem is, all the effort expended, all those air miles, all those expenses expended, and not a single dam thing to show for it. Even her ardent supporters admit this.

How's that any different than an extended world air tour vacation? (Travel a lot, accomplish nothing substantive) All at the tax payer's expense!
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You can't know that...When dignitaries meet behind closed doors, there is much that goes on that we are unaware of, as it should be.. She went to many hotspots, including the middle east...
 
Juanita said:
You can't know that...When dignitaries meet behind closed doors, there is much that goes on that we are unaware of, as it should be.. She went to many hotspots, including the middle east...
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I am sorry but as SOS she only made things worse.........Look around you, Israel, Arabs, Ukraine, Russia, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.....all exploding without any fear of her.
 
Navy Pride said:
I am sorry but as SOS she only made things worse.........Look around you, Israel, Arabs, Ukraine, Russia, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.....all exploding without any fear of her.
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How did she make things worse, and what does she have to do with the current situation in Israel, Ukraine or Russia?
 
Redress said:
Why does your poll lack an "Other" option?

Clinton by a little, in that she is more moderate economically (leading to more likelihood of negotiated compromises to get things done) and has more foreign policy experience. However, I think fairly highly of both.
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Clinton's foreign policy experience includes involvement in creating the Arab Spring while leading from behind, whatever that means, reducing security in Benghazi after multiple requests by Ambassador Stevens to obtain more security, and then failing to withdraw the diplomat team in Benghazi after every other countries had withdrawn theirs due to the amount of violence directed at westerners.

The Arab Spring hasn't brought peace or democracy to the ME as Obama and the state department miscalculated.

Clinton's political ambitions to show the world all was well in Libya since Gaddafi was ousted from power got Ambassador Stevens and others killed in Benghazi.

So how's that foreign policy experience going to work for her during the next presidential primaries? Most likely she'll be attacked by Democrats before Republicans even get a shot at her.

As Secretary of State her legacy is permanently tied to the Obama administration, as it should be.

Foreign policy was supposed to be the experience that got her to the White House but she can't campaign on any accomplishment there.
 
Perotista said:
It is my opinion that Hillary may be the easiest nominee to beat and I use the term easiest very loosely here as I also think any democratic nominee in 2016 will be the favorite. Now those known to be interested in the nomination are Clinton, Biden, Warren, Cuomo, O'Malley and Schweitzer. But Hillary has plenty of baggage and the independent voter only gives here a 41% favorable rating with a 48% unfavorable. Hillary is so well known I doubt if those numbers change much.

Contrast Hillary's number with Warrens among independents, 21% favorable 13% unfavorable. But with 64% either undecided or haven't ever heard of her, Warren could improve immensely or she could tank. There is a ton of unknowns about Warren whereas much not is unknown about Clinton.
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Biden has a good smile and that's it. LET'S GO HILLARY!

I wont be voting age by 2016, but I'll get there for the next election ;)
 
Luftwaffe said:
Biden has a good smile and that's it. LET'S GO HILLARY!

I wont be voting age by 2016, but I'll get there for the next election ;)
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I have been voting since 1964, all I would have to say is keep an open mind. Weigh all issues and candidates and vote your conscious.
 
Perotista said:
I have been voting since 1964, all I would have to say is keep an open mind. Weigh all issues and candidates and vote your conscious.
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Keep an open mind until you reach the part of the candidacy list where you start to see Sarah Palin and Michelle Backman ;)
 
Luftwaffe said:
Keep an open mind until you reach the part of the candidacy list where you start to see Sarah Palin and Michelle Backman ;)
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That is for you to decide. But I doubt Palin and Bachman will be candidates. I would imagine there will be a few we never even thought of when the time comes. There are also third party candidates, but the decision is entirely yours.
 
Perotista said:
That is for you to decide. But I doubt Palin and Bachman will be candidates. I would imagine there will be a few we never even thought of when the time comes. There are also third party candidates, but the decision is entirely yours.
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No sense of humor...
 
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