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  • Brought down (from inside)

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  • Terrorist Act

    1 2.56%
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  • We'll never know

    2 5.13%
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    Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 17

    I think Putin really ****ed up this time.
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    Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 17

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think Putin really ****ed up this time.
    I don't think he cares. At all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I don't think he cares. At all.
    Typically he doesn't, but this may end up having a smoking gun. We'll see how things develop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Typically he doesn't, but this may end up having a smoking gun. We'll see how things develop.
    Well, I'm pretty sure they've removed the smoking gun already. You can safely bet your entire life savings on the fact that any fragments of a missile have more than probably been already removed from the crash site, and don't forget that the black boxes have been sent to Russia, a country that had no legitimate reason to have them - it wasn't their airline, the flight did not originate or was supposed to end in Russia, the plane didn't crash in Russia, there were no Russians aboard the plane... why in the hell did the black boxes get taken to Russia? Obviously, because they are erasing all traces of a smoking gun, which in my book is akin to a huge red flag to establish the idea that Russia is a significantly guilty party in this tragedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    Well, I'm pretty sure they've removed the smoking gun already. You can safely bet your entire life savings on the fact that any fragments of a missile have more than probably been already removed from the crash site, and don't forget that the black boxes have been sent to Russia, a country that had no legitimate reason to have them - it wasn't their airline, the flight did not originate or was supposed to end in Russia, the plane didn't crash in Russia, there were no Russians aboard the plane... why in the hell did the black boxes get taken to Russia? Obviously, because they are erasing all traces of a smoking gun, which in my book is akin to a huge red flag to establish the idea that Russia is a significantly guilty party in this tragedy.
    Well with the Dummkopf-in-Chief you may have a point, but they could remove all fragments of a missile in a couple days, if there are any fragments there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well with the Dummkopf-in-Chief you may have a point, but they could remove all fragments of a missile in a couple days, if there are any fragments there.
    Still, there is a growing amount of rather convincing circumstantial evidence:

    http://news.yahoo.com/us-outlines-ca...-politics.html

    Video of an SA-11 launcher, with one of its missiles missing and leaving the likely launch site, has been authenticated, he said.
    An Associated Press journalist saw a missile launcher in rebel-held territory close to the crash site just hours before the plane was brought down Thursday.
    "There's a buildup of extraordinary circumstantial evidence," Kerry said. "We picked up the imagery of this launch. We know the trajectory. We know where it came from. We know the timing, and it was exactly at the time that this aircraft disappeared from the radar. We also know from voice identification that the separatists were bragging about shooting it down afterward."
    In one set of calls, said by Ukrainian security services to have been recorded shortly after the plane was hit, a prominent rebel commander, Igor Bezler, tells a Russian military intelligence officer that rebel forces shot down a plane.
    Shortly before Kerry's television appearances, the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, released a statement saying experts had authenticated the calls.

    "Audio data provided to the press by the Ukrainian security service was evaluated by intelligence community analysts who confirmed these were authentic conversations between known separatist leaders, based on comparing the Ukraine-released internet audio to recordings of known separatists," the statement said.
    A new set of recordings apparently made Friday also appears to implicate rebels in an attempted cover-up at the crash site.
    In one exchange, a man identified as the leader of the rebel Vostok Battalion Alexander Khodakovsky states that two recording devices are being held by the head of intelligence of the insurgency's military commander. The commander is then heard to order the militiaman to ensure no outsiders, including an international observation team near the crash site at the reported time of the call, get hold of any material.
    Last edited by GreatNews2night; 07-20-14 at 11:42 PM.

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