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Thread: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by kitcher View Post
    Easy: Lawyers are scum
    Hey, c'mon. My stepfather is a lawyer. He does mostly family law, real estate, estates, stuff like that. He used to run the mock trial at a local high school, for free. He worked in legal aid. He's done pro bono work the likes of which you'd never fathom.

    They're not all bad, man.
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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Hey, c'mon. My stepfather is a lawyer. He does mostly family law, real estate, estates, stuff like that. He used to run the mock trial at a local high school. He's done pro bono work the likes of which you'd never fathom.

    They're not all bad, man.
    Reminds me of a joke:

    How many lawyers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    None, lawyers only screw us.

    I jest. Lots of lawyers are great. I've had to work with them, pleasantly. But I'd certainly be happy if more left the field, it'd make finding a job in the legal progression so much easier...

    Reducing the tax code wouldn't put every lawyer out of work. CPAs might reduce, but lots of other professions go away over time. People change jobs. When's the last time you saw a shoe shiner? Or what about physical newspapers that are dying out? There's nothing wrong with change.

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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by kitcher View Post
    Reminds me of a joke:

    How many lawyers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    None, lawyers only screw us.

    I jest. Lots of lawyers are great. I've had to work with them, pleasantly. But I'd certainly be happy if more left the field, it'd make finding a job in the legal progression so much easier...

    Reducing the tax code wouldn't put every lawyer out of work. CPAs might reduce, but lots of other professions go away over time. People change jobs. When's the last time you saw a shoe shiner? Or what about physical newspapers that are dying out? There's nothing wrong with change.
    HAY. I actually still produce physical newspapers! Somewhat.
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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    An extremely poor idea ...imagine the tax load on the poor(primarily) and the middle class ..
    If everyone cant pay their share then its time to look into reducing taxes in general then.

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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'd consider voting for him if he was not a Republican.
    He's not a Republican...

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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    A flat tax is much more punitive to the poor. So no, I don't agree with that.
    What about this?

    What is the FairTax | What is a Consumption Tax | Tax Reform Solutions - Americans For Fair Taxation

    http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/WhatTheFe...CostingYou.pdf

    The current federal income tax system is clearly broken -- unfair, overly complex, and almost impossible for most Americans to understand. But there is a reasonable, nonpartisan alternative that is both fair and easy to understand. A system that allows you to keep your whole paycheck and only pay taxes on what you spend.

    The FairTax is a national sales tax that treats every person equally and allows American businesses to thrive, while generating the same tax revenue as the current four-million-word-plus word tax code. Under the FairTax, every person living in the United States pays a sales tax on purchases of new goods and services, excluding necessities due to the prebate. The FairTax rate after necessities is 23% and equal to the lowest current income tax bracket (15%) combined with employee payroll taxes (7.65%), both of which will be eliminated.

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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    He's not a Republican...
    Well, he was. He's got the stank on him.
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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    A consumption tax, which is basically an overall sales tax, is even MORE punitive on the poor than a flat tax.
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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Well, he was. He's got the stank on him.
    Lol, true. But his reasons for leaving are phenomenal. He pretty much put the finger up as high as he could manage on his way out. He's worth looking into for 2016, especially with the current crop of candidates.

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    Re: Do You Agree With Gary Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    A consumption tax, which is basically an overall sales tax, is even MORE punitive on the poor than a flat tax.
    How so? You'll only be taxed on what you spend, rather than having half your paycheck stolen. The poor tend to spend much less, so they would be taxed less. The FairTax means they can put money in savings and build wealth without having a dime of it taken.

    Also,

    Under the FairTax, all Americans consume what they see as their necessities of life free of tax. While permitting no exemptions, the FairTax (HR25/S122) provides a monthly universal prebate to ensure that each family unit can consume tax free at or beyond the poverty level, with the overall effect of making the FairTax progressive in application.
    I see this as only beneficial to the poor.

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