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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    If we were going to do anything I think it should be only placing a candidates name on a government ballot without any party affiliation identified. Sadly I think voters would have a panic and would be lost as to who to vote for. They are just that ill informed.

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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?




    Damn, messed this one up.
    No poll options.

    Speak your mind.


    I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

    So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.
    They should use brown and green next time around. Then it will make a cool camouflage looking map of the United States.

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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?




    Damn, messed this one up.
    No poll options.

    Speak your mind.


    I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

    So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.
    It makes no difference, I can remember back when the Republicans had blue and the Democrats had red, now it is vice versa. Just let it remain so. Everyone is use to this color scheme.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    If we were going to do anything I think it should be only placing a candidates name on a government ballot without any party affiliation identified. Sadly I think voters would have a panic and would be lost as to who to vote for. They are just that ill informed.
    I would wager you are right.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?




    Damn, messed this one up.
    No poll options.

    Speak your mind.


    I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

    So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.
    Do they have any such permanent claim? Or could both start using a light shade of green tomorrow just for the hell of it.
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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?




    Damn, messed this one up.
    No poll options.

    Speak your mind.


    I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

    So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.
    ....is this really what our politics has come down to? Who has what color? No wonder we're circling the drain.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?




    Damn, messed this one up.
    No poll options.

    Speak your mind.


    I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

    So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.
    I do not see the added benefit of it. Republican are red states and democrats are blue. Everybody knows that, the colors themselves mean nothing.

    Because what would be next? Change the animals every few elections so that Republicans can be the donkey from time to time and the democrats the elephant?

    You change your party by changing the politics and the people you put up for election, not by changing colors IMHO.
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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Voluntarily would be fine. It's probably a slightly better system although I don't think it's in the top 1000 causes of polarization in this country.
    Just saying, for the record, I never said it was in the top 1000 causes.
    Just that we do not need further polarization with such.


    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Mandating it and infringing on the 1st amendment is going way too far for something that is so ridiculously minor.
    We have all kinds of fairness laws regarding election coverage. This would just be another. And it worked in the past.





    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    "force"? whatchumean?
    Well it wouldn't be against the Parties.
    But read the above reply.





    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    It makes no difference,
    Good, then you should not be opposed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Everyone is use to this color scheme.
    Used to it? I don't think "Status quo" arguments fly.
    And obviously someone is ok with it returning to it being alternated.





    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Do they have any such permanent claim? Or could both start using a light shade of green tomorrow just for the hell of it.
    It was revealed in the thread that it is not the Parties using the colors but the media.





    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ....is this really what our politics has come down to? Who has what color? No wonder we're circling the drain.
    Well we have to start somewhere to lessen our polarization.
    It seems as though this would be a step in the right direction.



    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I do not see the added benefit of it. Republican are red states and democrats are blue. Everybody knows that, the colors themselves mean nothing.

    Because what would be next? Change the animals every few elections so that Republicans can be the donkey from time to time and the democrats the elephant?

    You change your party by changing the politics and the people you put up for election, not by changing colors IMHO.
    I see you didn't thoroughly read the thread.
    It wasn't the parties doing it but the media.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Republican are red states and democrats are blue.
    Hasn't always been that way.
    Repubs were blue and Dems were red.
    Then the colors were alternated, with the media finally settling on the opposite color scheme.
    There is no reason why it couldn't go back, or at least alternate as was done before.

    The fact that you are ok with it as it is, is an indicator to me that it should go back to alternating.
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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    We have all kinds of fairness laws regarding election coverage. This would just be another. And it worked in the past.
    I'm not aware of any fairness laws regarding election coverage. Please elaborate.
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    Re: Should we force parties to alternate colors?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    We have all kinds of fairness laws regarding election coverage. This would just be another. And it worked in the past.
    I'm not aware of any fairness laws regarding election coverage. Please elaborate.
    "Have" should have been "had". And I used the plural of Law loosely, an enforceable rule = law.

    Law

    Equal-time rule.
    Which of course should not be confused with the Fairness Doctrine.
    Which were also rules to supposedly (cough) make things more fair.

    Equal-time rule


    [...]

    The equal-time rule specifies that U.S. radio and television broadcast stations must provide an equivalent opportunity to any opposing political candidates who request it. This means, for example, that if a station gives one free minute to a candidate in prime time, it must do the same for another candidate who requests it. The equal-time rule was created because the FCC thought the stations could easily manipulate the outcome of elections by presenting just one point of view, and excluding other candidates. It should not be confused with the now-defunct Fairness Doctrine, which dealt with presenting balanced points of view on matters of public importance.

    There are four exceptions to the equal-time rule. If the airing was within a documentary, bona fide news interview, scheduled newscast or an on-the-spot news event, the equal-time rule does not apply. Since 1983, political debates not hosted by the media station are considered "news events," and as a result, are not subject to the rule. Consequently, these debates may include only major-party candidates without having to offer air time to minor-party or independent candidates. Talk shows and other regular news programming from syndicators, such as Entertainment Tonight, are also declared exempt from the rule by the FCC on a case-by-case basis. [1]

    This rule originated in §18 of the Radio Act of 1927; it was later superseded by the Communications Act of 1934. A related provision, in §315(b), requires that broadcasters offer time to candidates at the same rate as their "most favored advertiser".

    Equal-time rule | Wikipedia

    Has it succumbed to the same fate of the Fairness Doctrine?
    I didn't see at the Cornell link that § 315 had been repealed.

    Or is that something that you don't consider to be a fairness law?


    Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me the Equal Time Rule even if it no longer exists is an attempt at fairness.


    Even the networks realized such and attempted to avoid favoritism.

    It further claims that from 1976 to 2004, the broadcast networks, in an attempt to avoid favoritism in color-coding, standardized on the convention of alternating every four years between blue and red the color used for the incumbent party.[9][10]

    Red states and blue states | Wikipedia
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