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Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

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Spending is at an all time high, the national debt is far into the trillions, and government is growing at an exponential rate. Arguably, there needs to be some cuts. Which of the following federal departments should be abolished? If you believe several of the listed departments should be abolished, choose the department that needs to be abolished the most.
 
Outside of DHS none of those are cabinet-level departments. Did you mean to say "agency"?
 
Department of education is a federal entity we can do with out

ATF is an agency we should get rid of as well

and ultimately the DEA. Drugs should be a state issue
same with guns, tobacco and alcohol
 
TurtleDude said:
Department of education is a federal entity we can do with out

ATF is an agency we should get rid of as well

and ultimately the DEA. Drugs should be a state issue
same with guns, tobacco and alcohol
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DEA should have been on the list...crap.
 
Question.

Does abolishing the agency remove every part of it, or are you letting people "abolish" things but then essentially keep it by moving stuff into other agencies?
 
TurtleDude said:
Department of education is a federal entity we can do with out

ATF is an agency we should get rid of as well

and ultimately the DEA. Drugs should be a state issue
same with guns, tobacco and alcohol
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But then what will turn into BADTFL (Bureau of Alcohol, Drugs, Tobacco, Firearms and Lasers)?

P.S. Since no one ever gets jokes on this forum, this is a joke (a Fallout one).
 
Zyphlin said:
Question.

Does abolishing the agency remove every part of it, or are you letting people "abolish" things but then essentially keep it by moving stuff into other agencies?
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that is a good question because I suppose the FBI could start doing gun crimes I meant completely get rid of the government involvement in the area
 
Doe..
 
Carjosse said:
But then what will turn into BADTFL (Bureau of Alcohol, Drugs, Tobacco, Firearms and Lasers)?

P.S. Since no one ever gets jokes on this forum, this is a joke (a Fallout one).
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Alcohol tobacco and firearms should be part of the inventory of a general store, not a government agency
 
Pity there is no option for "all of them" because I would have voted that way. ;)
 
Zyphlin said:
Question.

Does abolishing the agency remove every part of it, or are you letting people "abolish" things but then essentially keep it by moving stuff into other agencies?
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Also, keep in mind that abolishing the agency doesn't do anything to solve the fact that that agency was formed to enforce some sort of legislation. I don't have as much a gripe with say DEA as I do with drug laws themselves.
 
Carjosse said:
What about drugs and lasers?
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sure why not

drug control is a state issue-same with lasers. of course if you say use a laser to try to attack an airliner that would be interfering with interstate commerce/travel and would justify the FBI or DHS becoming involved

the federal government telling Colorado that people cannot sell dope Intrastate is idiotic and an affront to the Constitution (10th amendment) and an impermissible mutation of the commerce clause
 
TeleKat said:
Hmm, any particular reason? (Curious question)
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I think he's a grunt a jarhead or a squid?:mrgreen:

in WWII it was the US Army Air Corps or Naval aviators. worked fine like that
 
StillBallin75 said:
Also, keep in mind that abolishing the agency doesn't do anything to solve the fact that that agency was formed to enforce some sort of legislation. I don't have as much a gripe with say DEA as I do with drug laws themselves.
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Great point. I don't much like our drug laws, but as long as they remain you'd either need the DEA or you'd need to reauthorize another federal law enforcement agency to handle those issues.

That is part of what spurred my question, as there's a portion of an agency that's near and dear to my heart (for those that have read me for a while they may know to what I speak) that may fall in that category
 
TurtleDude said:
I think he's a grunt a jarhead or a squid?:mrgreen:

in WWII it was the US Army Air Corps or Naval aviators. worked fine like that
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Yeah, if memory serves one could argue we don't have constitutional authority to have an Air Force, but rather the navy or army should have an air corps of sorts
 
Zyphlin said:
Yeah, if memory serves one could argue we don't have constitutional authority to have an Air Force, but rather the navy or army should have an air corps of sorts
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You are correct. excellent constitutional recall there
 
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