View Poll Results: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

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  • FDA

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  • NSA

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  • TSA

    3 9.38%
  • DHS

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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Hmm, any particular reason? (Curious question)
    I think he's a grunt a jarhead or a squid?

    in WWII it was the US Army Air Corps or Naval aviators. worked fine like that



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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Also, keep in mind that abolishing the agency doesn't do anything to solve the fact that that agency was formed to enforce some sort of legislation. I don't have as much a gripe with say DEA as I do with drug laws themselves.
    Great point. I don't much like our drug laws, but as long as they remain you'd either need the DEA or you'd need to reauthorize another federal law enforcement agency to handle those issues.

    That is part of what spurred my question, as there's a portion of an agency that's near and dear to my heart (for those that have read me for a while they may know to what I speak) that may fall in that category

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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think he's a grunt a jarhead or a squid?

    in WWII it was the US Army Air Corps or Naval aviators. worked fine like that
    Yeah, if memory serves one could argue we don't have constitutional authority to have an Air Force, but rather the navy or army should have an air corps of sorts

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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think he's a grunt a jarhead or a squid?

    in WWII it was the US Army Air Corps or Naval aviators. worked fine like that
    Thrilla's a jarhead and Marines have their own aviators.
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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yeah, if memory serves one could argue we don't have constitutional authority to have an Air Force, but rather the navy or army should have an air corps of sorts
    You are correct. excellent constitutional recall there



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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Thrilla's a jarhead and Marines have their own aviators.
    true enough as does the Navy.



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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Pity there is no option for "all of them" because I would have voted that way.
    Nah, I'm going to make you pick just one. Only because I find joy in watching you (and other Libertarians) squirm.

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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Question.

    Does abolishing the agency remove every part of it, or are you letting people "abolish" things but then essentially keep it by moving stuff into other agencies?
    Are you referring to the department of everything?
    I have CDO, it's like OCD but the letters are in alphabetical order like they should be.

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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    I said none. Why? Because all we have to do is defund the ones that are superfluous being that their domain is primarily a state issue, and not a federal one, and they will no longer exist with the states just continuing doing what they do already. One of the few law enforcement duties that the Constitution gives the Federal government is Immigration, which just happens to be the one law enforcement duty that they fail miserably at performing.

    A agree that the ATF, Dept. of Education and a few others are superfluous. The TSA, however, can be argued to be within the Constitutional powers of the Federal government under the Commerce Clause.
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    Re: Which Of These Federal Departments Should Be Abolished?

    The USAF has a mission, and should not be abolished... so says a USAF vet.
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