View Poll Results: What would you do about the death penalty?

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  • Nothing. It's fine as it's currently practiced.

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  • Modify it. (Explain your answer)

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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Not necessarily. Killing for punishment can also come from the perceived need to protect the society from future crimes.
    That only works in a society where 23h lockdown is not an option. We have it as an option. Criminals can be isolated from society for the rest of their lives. So no, "killing for punishment" is not a need to protect people from future crimes as that type of "need" doesn't work with any other kind of punishment. We don't put people in jail because they may rob. We don't do it because they may rape. We do it to deter others from committing the crimes and punish the individual. The weird thing is that most countries where the death penalty is banned and a rehabilitation approach is taken have been proven to do better at stopping criminal behavior.
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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Not sure I see the argument here. Does stealing silver spoons make someone sub-human trash? That was an offense punishable by death in the olden days.
    Is it a capital crime in the US today? NO! Then why in the world would someone bring it up? Oh, yeah, they might be a criminal loving dumb-ass. Maybe we should have a poll and ask.

    If anyone is unwilling to do everything possible, including putting to death of evil scum, to prevent further evil, then they are aiding and abetting that evil.

    And while your so concerned about how "humane" the Death penalty is, why don't you take a look at the crime scene photos or at least the articles about what these animals did to get the death penalty. Maybe go volunteer someplace to help the shattered remains of families affected by these individuals carry on somehow after having a hole ripped in their lives.

    Death Row Inmates by State and Size of Death Row by Year | Death Penalty Information Center
    3,070 on death row in the US as of 1 Jan 2014. While your being so humane and caring so much about these scum, think about the 100,000+ plus lives they shattered, destroyed and affected.

    Repeat Felons Dominate the Criminal Justice System

    77 percent of felony defendants have at least one prior arrest and 69 percent have multiple prior arrests. 61 percent have at least one conviction and 49 percent have multiple convictions.

    35 percent of those charged with felonies have 10 or more prior arrests and another 17 percent have between 5 to 9 arrests, thus 52 percent of charged felons have been arrested and before the courts many times.

    40 percent of those charged with burglary and motor vehicle theft have 10 or more arrests. 30 percent of violent offenders have 10 or more prior arrests.

    40 percent of all felony convictions serve time in a state prison and 55 percent of those convicted for violent felonies serve time in state prisons. More serve less than six months in county jails.

    Whats the number of prisoner escapes each year? Some years more, some less, but roughly 2,000 a year. Recent data is hard to find.


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    “In 2010, 115 people were released from prison having served a life sentence for murder. Of these, six had served fewer than 10 years. In 2011, 160 people were released from prison having served a life sentence for murder. Of these, 26 had served fewer than 10 years.”
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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    This poll addresses capital punishment both in the states that have it and in the federal government.
    I would expand the death penalty to apply to any conviction which currenty carries a sentence longer than 10 years, and to any 3rd feloney conviction, to include a 3rd feloney charge on the same act.

    So since I support making DUI a feloney like it is in Canada, your 3rd DUI conviction will cost you your life. DUI with a loaded gun and minor child in the car will cost you your life.
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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I would eliminate the death penalty in it's entirety. Nobody, government official or citizen, should have the legal right to murder someone unless directly in self-defense. There's no need to become the very thing we claim to fight against. "You killed someone, and that's not okay, thus your punishment is that I will kill you." Makes no sense!
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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    So you would be ok with taking a life when there's the slightest chance you might be killing someone who's innocent?
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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Colaterol damage.
    No, it's called killing the innocent in pursuit of a highly unnecessary goal. Don't play it down, say it as it is.

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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Imprisoned killers who are not on death row are treated to cable tv, three square meals a day, and free healthcare. Much more then they deserve. My sympathies are for their victims.
    Yes, the state has the responsibility to provide for those under their care, which means they feed and provide for the prisoners healthcare needs. It is also the humane thing to do to give them something to do with their time besides sitting around in a cell and thinking of ways to abuse each other.

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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That only works in a society where 23h lockdown is not an option. We have it as an option. Criminals can be isolated from society for the rest of their lives. So no, "killing for punishment" is not a need to protect people from future crimes as that type of "need" doesn't work with any other kind of punishment. We don't put people in jail because they may rob. We don't do it because they may rape. We do it to deter others from committing the crimes and punish the individual. The weird thing is that most countries where the death penalty is banned and a rehabilitation approach is taken have been proven to do better at stopping criminal behavior.
    Do we really put people in jail for rape and larceny just to deter others, or do we put such people in jail so that they are unable to commit more rapes and robberies?

    I'm inclined to think it's the latter.
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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    This poll addresses capital punishment both in the states that have it and in the federal government.
    I'd get rid of it completely, it's unnecessary.
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    Re: Would you modify how the death penalty is applied?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    So you would be ok with taking a life when there's the slightest chance you might be killing someone who's innocent?
    So your ok endangering millions on the slight chance that someone is innocent?
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