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Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 62.1%

  • No

    Votes: 11 37.9%
  • Total voters
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TurtleDude said:
the biggest being the claim that she is arguing libertarian principles

I oppose the payroll tax as a violation of the tenth amendment

Medicaid, Medicare and SS are all areas congress really has no right to act in
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primarily, i'm opposed to them on a philosophical basis....taxing a persons labor/income is abhorrent behavior.

the federal government should only concern themselves with excise taxes and usage fees (for federal lands)..states can be more liberal in their tax schemes( such as property taxes), but they should also not concern themselves with taxing labor/income
 
sangha said:
You are moving the goal posts. You were arguing that "nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth"

Since you were proven wrong, you've pretended you said something else
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another fail on your part. I am not going to fall for your usual tactics. You haven't proven anyone wrong no matter how much you say otherwise

there was no taxes on wealth imposed by the founders
 
sangha said:
They did implement the confiscation of wealth in the form of tax laws. Not sure why you think there was a time when the govt ran for free.
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you are not being specific...I wonder why that is?

I don't believe the govt has ever run for free..I'm not sure why you would tell such a lie.
 
TurtleDude said:
another fail on your part. I am not going to fall for your usual tactics. You haven't proven anyone wrong no matter how much you say otherwise

there was no taxes on wealth imposed by the founders
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You've gone from "nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth" to "there was no taxes on wealth imposed by the founders"
 
sangha said:
You've gone from "nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth" to "there was no taxes on wealth imposed by the founders"
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semantic twisting won't save your failure here.

no taxes on wealth-nothing in the constitution that suggests taxes on private wealth
 
TurtleDude said:
semantic twisting won't save your failure here.

no taxes on wealth-nothing in the constitution that suggests taxes on private wealth
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You're the one who is twisting words, and ironically, it's your own words your twisting

And all taxes come from someone's wealth
 
TurtleDude said:
you are wrong-the estate pays the tax at the death of the estate holder. Those who inherit stuff don't pay the tax. If they did, you'd be right. You are not
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Technically yes, the estate pays it. Considering that the estate is the middle-man between the dead person and the heir(s)... po-tay-to, po-tah-to. If that makes you feel better, I'm glad I could help. Doesn't change or detract from the gist of my point, however.
 
sangha said:
You're the one who is twisting words, and ironically, it's your own words your twisting

And all taxes come from someone's wealth
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excise taxes are what you pay when you engage in an activity. not a tax on wealth

try again
 
radcen said:
Technically yes, the estate pays it. Considering that the estate is the middle-man between the dead person and the heir(s)... po-tay-to, po-tah-to. If that makes you feel better, I'm glad I could help. Doesn't change or detract from the gist of my point, however.
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you didn't have a point-you were wrong when you called it an inheritance tax
 
sangha said:
You're the one who is twisting words, and ironically, it's your own words your twisting

And all taxes come from someone's wealth
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factually inaccurate.

wealth is an abundance of a resource, in this case.. money.

those without wealth are still taxed, contrary to your false claim.
 
radcen said:
I know that "being right" is more important to you than the subject at hand, so... carry on.
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I know butting in and getting schooled is what happened to you here. an inheritance tax is paid by the heirs and often is based on the income or the amount given to the heirs. i.e. if someone left me 20K I'd pay a lower rate than someone left 2 million in the same will. An estate tax is based on the size of the estate, not how its divvied up (unless some is given to charity and that the taxable amount decreases)
 
TurtleDude said:
excise taxes are what you pay when you engage in an activity. not a tax on wealth

try again
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SO now you're moving the goalposts yet again. This time from "grabbing private wealth" to "a tax on wealth"

Your posts are so weak that even you won't stand by them
 
sangha said:
SO now you're moving the goalposts yet again. This time from "grabbing private wealth" to "a tax on wealth"

Your posts are so weak that even you won't stand by them
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rejected as contrary to known reality
 
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