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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No you haven't

    what you have tried to establish is that
    I not only tried, I succeeded
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I not only tried, I succeeded
    ah a self awarded victory. I deny your claims

    If you were right, the founders would have enacted a federal death tax

    they did not



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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have proven that the power is in the constitution, and that founders desired that the power be used that way
    will you please prove it to me.

    no where in the constitution of the founders, does it grant the congress power to tax the people, or involvement in their personal life's.

    the constitution creates federalism, and places restriction on the federal government.....that's what it does.

    the only people congress has authority over is pirates, counterfeiters and those who commit treason...as stated by the constitution.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have already posted quotes from Jefferson and Franklin that describe their ideas. You can also read Thom Paines "Rights on Man"
    oh I see, they must have simply forgot to implement these ideas into plans, and the plans into codified laws.

    they had alot to do, it must have been a simple oversight to not include these ideas

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's complete crap. nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth. and what is hilarious is the high minded facade people like you cloak envy in.
    td and other konservatives (or so-called "libertarian right"ies) believe it's OK to grab private wealth as long as it's called a "payroll tax."

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    td and other konservatives (or so-called "libertarian right"ies) believe it's OK to grab private wealth as long as it's called a "payroll tax."
    that's the most stupid thing I have yet to see on this thread. I oppose the Social Security ponzi scheme. Real libertarians understand what I am saying.



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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    td and other konservatives (or so-called "libertarian right"ies) believe it's OK to grab private wealth as long as it's called a "payroll tax."
    from a libertarian point of view, any tax, that is collected by force....is wrong, and defies the founding principles of America in the declaration of independence.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    from a libertarian point of view, any tax, that is collected by force....is wrong, and defies the founding principles of America in the declaration of independence.
    True, but neither you nor td are real Libertarians; you're conservatives, and conservatives have always been opposed to unconditional cuts to payroll taxes. . .

    Top Republican opposes extending U.S. payroll tax cut | Reuters

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/us...pagewanted=all

    The only time GOP leaders have supported such "cuts" is when they aren't tax cuts but rather bundled w/other costly corporate-welfare programs that effectively negate the savings from the tax cuts.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    td and other konservatives (or so-called "libertarian right"ies) believe it's OK to grab private wealth as long as it's called a "payroll tax."
    I don't think it's ok....TD doesn't think it's ok.

    seems you are faced with believing a falsehood, again.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    True, but neither you nor td are real Libertarians; you're conservatives, and conservatives have always been opposed to unconditional cuts to payroll taxes. . .

    Top Republican opposes extending U.S. payroll tax cut | Reuters

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/us...pagewanted=all

    The only time GOP leaders have supported such "cuts" is when they aren't tax cuts but rather bundled w/other costly corporate-welfare programs that effectively negate the savings from the tax cuts.
    oh, I do not support many things the GOP does.

    my libertarian right stance means I believe in constitution law, and state powers.

    I am not for any tax that uses force.....but voluntary taxes on commerce of the founders

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