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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    They were given the power to. Proving your statement: "nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth", totally wrong.
    more nonsense. You have failed and you are now repeating the same parrot squawk



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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Watched an interview with a Tea Party "leader" earlier tonight. He kept up bringing up the point that the Tea Party is "against crony capitalism". That got me thinking, isnt the tea party itself a astro turf movement that is funded by crony capitalists such as the Koch Bros. So, Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?
    There's probably a few genuine anti-corporatists in the movement, but as a whole they have become a branch of the GOP. Most, if not damn near all, are corporate shills now. Same sh*t, new rhetoric. It, like the Occupy Movement, started out as a legitimate opposition to Wall St cronyism and the central banking racket, but eventually both became firmly entrenched in the corrupted two party system.

    Long story short: yes.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Watched an interview with a Tea Party "leader" earlier tonight. He kept up bringing up the point that the Tea Party is "against crony capitalism". That got me thinking, isnt the tea party itself a astro turf movement that is funded by crony capitalists such as the Koch Bros. So, Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?
    There's probably a few genuine anti-corporatists in the movement, but as a whole they have become a branch of the GOP. Most, if not damn near all, are corporate shills now. Same sh*t, new rhetoric. It, like the Occupy Movement, started out as a legitimate opposition to Wall St cronyism and the central banking racket, but eventually both became firmly entrenched in the corrupted two party system.

    Long story short: yes.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Yes, just like the democrats and republicans. Our odd version of corporate controlled "democratic" elections mean that it is nearly impossible for one to be successful without selling their soul to corporations, special interest groups, and the like.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's complete crap. nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth. and what is hilarious is the high minded facade people like you cloak envy in.
    So what? Even if you could argue that the founders would have disagreed with the current state of affairs of government, which you cannot, what makes their opinions morally superior to all others?

    the death tax only hits those who have already paid far far far more income taxes than most americans. Its nothing more than a surcharge on the overtaxed.
    And at the end of the day, they still have far more wealth than most Americans. Why do you find taxing someone after they are dead in no longer in need of the money morally reprehensible? Trust fund babies are not something you want to encourage in society.

    do you even realize that the death tax was proposed as a solution to a "problem" that no longer exists and is not part of the proper role of government? the death tax was before 40% or more federal and state income taxes were foisted on the rich
    Who defines what the "proper role of government" is? Also, I have to lol at 40% being considered a high tax rate on upper incomes.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you seem confused between having the power to do many things and with the claim that the founders wanted that power to be used to slake the envy of losers by soaking the rich with additional taxes that only they have to pay
    Property: Benjamin Franklin to Robert Morris
    All Property, indeed, except the Savage's temporary Cabin, his Bow, his Matchcoat, and other little Acquisitions, absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be the Creature of public Convention. Hence the Public has the Right of Regulating Descents, and all other Conveyances of Property, and even of limiting the Quantity and the Uses of it.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    So what? Even if you could argue that the founders would have disagreed with the current state of affairs of government, which you cannot, what makes their opinions morally superior to all others?



    And at the end of the day, they still have far more wealth than most Americans. Why do you find taxing someone after they are dead in no longer in need of the money morally reprehensible? Trust fund babies are not something you want to encourage in society.



    Who defines what the "proper role of government" is? Also, I have to lol at 40% being considered a high tax rate on upper incomes.
    so you think the purpose of taxation is to prevent some from having "far more wealth" than others?

    and I love the parasitic argument of "they are dead they don't need it"

    why don't you pay 40%



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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    remind me of his role as a constitutional scholar. they sure didn't put that into the document



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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that's not entirely true... Socialist love inheritance taxes because they love freedom


    specifically, the freedom to steal other peoples money.
    Social liberalism depends on other people's money.
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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    remind me of his role as a constitutional scholar. they sure didn't put that into the document
    So Ben Franklin thought that property ownership was a power of the state? So much for that Life, Liberty and Property jazz, huh?
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