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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you seem confused between having the power to do many things and with the claim that the founders wanted that power to be used to slake the envy of losers by soaking the rich with additional taxes that only they have to pay
    You claimed "nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth". Our fabric is generally agreed to be our Constitution. It does not matter what they wanted the power to be used as, or how it should be used. In fact the power to tax is in our founding document. The Founders gave the federal government the power to tax. You cannot get around that.


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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Speaking of butt-hurt....
    sorry to hear you are? will taxing the rich more help your aching?



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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You claimed "nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth". Our fabric is generally agreed to be our Constitution. It does not matter what they wanted the power to be used as, or how it should be used. In fact the power to tax is in our founding document. The Founders gave the federal government the power to tax. You cannot get around that.
    so it is your learned opinion-based on your credentials as a constitutional scholar-that the founders wanted a death tax to be imposed?

    and do you claim that they included the Commerce clause so congress could regulate a farmer growing wheat on his own property for his own use or for banning machine guns for lawful private citizens

    You seem confused and you apparently do not understand the difference between giving the government a power to "tax" with the Desire that the government tax a certain way based on social engineering and imposed on only a small group



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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You seem confused and you apparently do not understand the difference between giving the government a power to "tax" with the Desire that the government tax a certain way based on social engineering and imposed on only a small group
    so where in the constitution does it mentions social engineering?
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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so it is your learned opinion-based on your credentials as a constitutional scholar-that the founders wanted a death tax to be imposed?

    and do you claim that they included the Commerce clause so congress could regulate a farmer growing wheat on his own property for his own use or for banning machine guns for lawful private citizens

    You seem confused and you apparently do not understand the difference between giving the government a power to "tax" with the Desire that the government tax a certain way based on social engineering and imposed on only a small group
    Not talking about the specifics. Talking simply how your statement that nothing "in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth" is simply wrong.


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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Not talking about the specifics. Talking simply how your statement that nothing "in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth" is simply wrong.
    complete fail on your part-there was no income tax created by the founders-just excise taxes

    remind me of what sort of personal tax was imposed on individuals by the federal government as run by the founders?



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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    complete fail on your part-there was no income tax created by the founders-just excise taxes

    remind me of what sort of personal tax was imposed on individuals by the federal government as run by the founders?
    Arent taxes in their nature taking cash (property) from an individual by the government? Doenst have to be income tax. Now you are moving the goal posts. You said: "nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth".


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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Anyways. Seems pretty clear to me that the Tea Party movement itself is funded by "crony capitalists". Dont know how you can get around that.


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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Arent taxes in their nature taking cash (property) from an individual by the government? Doenst have to be income tax. Now you are moving the goal posts. You said: "nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth".
    I see you failed to answer again

    so you are wrong-there was no taxes that went after the wealth of citizens imposed by the founders at the federal level



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    Re: Is the Tea Party Funded by "Crony Capitalism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I see you failed to answer again

    so you are wrong-there was no taxes that went after the wealth of citizens imposed by the founders at the federal level
    They were given the power to. Proving your statement: "nothing in this country's fabric was based on government grabbing private wealth", totally wrong.


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