View Poll Results: Is homosexuality "normak" and "natural"?

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  • Homosexuality is normal

    68 47.22%
  • Homosexuality is not normal

    46 31.94%
  • Homosexuality is natural

    92 63.89%
  • Homosexuality is not natural

    19 13.19%
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    Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Did this about normal a few years ago, and decided it was time to try again. Was a fun and interesting thread at the time, so hopefully this will be as well. Two simple questions. Is Homosexuality "normal", and is homosexuality "natural"? If you would, please include your reasoning.

    Poll will allow multiple choices, pick a choice for the "normal" question and for the "natural" question. Poll will be up in a couple minutes.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    To the same degree as left-handedness, yes.

    and justifying exactly the same degree of bigotry expressed against it as well.

    edit -- and now that I see the poll, you will never get me to agree that homosexuality is normak.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    The most common argument would be that it is both normal and natural:

    i. Normal because it is found and accepted by many cultures in remote regions, around the world, and;

    ii. Natural because it is found in many different species in nature.

    Neither i nor ii imply that it is moral, however. Implying that either i or ii justifies homosexuality as an act is a large fallacy.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Liévin View Post
    The most common argument would be that it is both normal and natural:

    i. Normal because it is found and accepted by many cultures in remote regions, around the world, and;

    ii. Natural because it is found in many different species in nature.

    Neither i nor ii imply that it is moral, however. Implying that either i or ii justifies homosexuality as an act is a large fallacy.
    Right, but the only standards by which it is immoral is via religious ones which are a pretty ridiculous standard to go by (e.g it is a sin to eat shellfish).
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Liévin View Post
    The most common argument would be that it is both normal and natural:

    i. Normal because it is found and accepted by many cultures in remote regions, around the world, and;

    ii. Natural because it is found in many different species in nature.

    Neither i nor ii imply that it is moral, however. Implying that either i or ii justifies homosexuality as an act is a large fallacy.
    The normal and natural arguments typically arise in response to anti-SSM arguments that homosexuality is immoral because it is unnatural/non-normal. Nobody thinks that something being natural justifies its existence.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    I am not asking about morality. That is a different question and one that requires a value judgement. Normal and natural should be questions that can be answered objectively.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Liévin View Post
    The most common argument would be that it is both normal and natural:

    i. Normal because it is found and accepted by many cultures in remote regions, around the world, and;

    ii. Natural because it is found in many different species in nature.

    Neither i nor ii imply that it is moral, however. Implying that either i or ii justifies homosexuality as an act is a large fallacy.
    Homosexuality is not a moral or immoral concept. In the same way having black or white skin doesn't make one moral or immoral. It's irrelevant to the discussion. All that matters is does homosexuality cause harm and that's a question that has long since been answered. No It does not.

    You can be straight and immoral - you can be straight and moral. you can be gay and immoral - you can be gay and moral. Sexuality has nothing to do with morality.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    It would be refreshing for someone to say "like me" for who I am and let my sexuality be a non issue. It gets really tiresome for the homosexual and heterosexual crowd to constantly say, "love me for being a ....sexual!"

    Most people probably don't care as much about your orientation, as your quality of character. As for the poll, it's natural for people to practice their instinctual choice, regardless of how it's labeled.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    I think homosexuality is normal when one of them wears a dress. Then its not gay. As for women, its normal, natural and beautiful. In the minds of most men, all women are only a few drinks away from being bi.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not asking about morality. That is a different question and one that requires a value judgement. Normal and natural should be questions that can be answered objectively.
    I don't care if it's normal or natural because they aren't hurting anybody.
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