View Poll Results: Is homosexuality "normak" and "natural"?

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  • Homosexuality is normal

    68 47.22%
  • Homosexuality is not normal

    46 31.94%
  • Homosexuality is natural

    92 63.89%
  • Homosexuality is not natural

    19 13.19%
  • Other/unsure

    12 8.33%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No. I don't.

    You don't know what my sacred cow issue is.

    I never said I don't ever over react.

    Gotcha,,,lol

    At least you're honest.

    Normal is subjective but it's natural for someone to follow their instincts. I'm all for freedom and non judgment. I do believe some issues are way over used as badges of righteousness, like patriotism, racism accuser, religion/atheism, ME, etc. Nothing wrong with honest debate, instead we get emotional pleas and ego bashing.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did this about normal a few years ago, and decided it was time to try again. Was a fun and interesting thread at the time, so hopefully this will be as well. Two simple questions. Is Homosexuality "normal", and is homosexuality "natural"? If you would, please include your reasoning.

    Poll will allow multiple choices, pick a choice for the "normal" question and for the "natural" question. Poll will be up in a couple minutes.
    It's natural, but is it normal? Is there a scientific definition for what percentage of anything is abnormal?

    As one of the definitions of normal is natural, that would at least in part answer that.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    define defect
    Defects cause some form of harm, or simple abnormality which is non-advantageous. Think of things like Autism, Down Syndrome, Bi-Polar Disorder, or Dwarfism, for instance.

    If such conditions could be "cured" in some sense, or prevented from occurring outright, most people would support doing so.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not asking about morality. That is a different question and one that requires a value judgement. Normal and natural should be questions that can be answered objectively.
    Morality is intrinsically related to human nature.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    This is actually pretty simple to answer. Homosexuality is both normal and natural, for homosexuals. It's really that simple. Just as writing with your left had is both normal and natural if a person is left handed.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    .............

    Gotcha,,,lol
    Is condesension all you've got?

    At least you're honest.
    ?

    Normal is subjective but it's natural for someone to follow their instincts. I'm all for freedom and non judgment. I do believe some issues are way over used as badges of righteousness, like patriotism, racism accuser, religion/atheism, ME, etc. Nothing wrong with honest debate, instead we get emotional pleas and ego bashing
    so you're saying that you being irritated by their efforts to be recognized and treated equally isn't an emotional response?

    Why should it bother anyone how much noise someone chooses to make over an issue they are passionate about unless it the issue it's that person finds unsettling. It makes no sense
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    That would depend on just how common bisexual instincts actually are in human beings on an objective basis. So far, we have no effective way of really measuring that.

    We simply know that is something which only a small minority of people practice in reality.
    There's more than a little objective evidence. If you're interested, I suggest you read up on Kinsey.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    "Other."

    Statistically and biologically, it is abnormal by any standard you want to go by. That much is beyond question.

    However, it is also a "naturally occurring" phenomena in a large number of cases.

    The only question there is whether it occurs as a matter of design (i.e. as a phenomena which brings about some sort of evolutionary advantage), or defect (i.e. as an anomalous condition devoid of evolutionary value which has been brought about as an unintended consequence of random genetic mutation).
    It has been proven that some drugs given to pregnant women did cause certain physical birth defects - thalidomide as an example. Who can say with certainty that none of them might have also caused random genetic mutations to the way that the brain operates and processes information? There has to be an underlying cause for the increased number, because I believe we were hardwired to look at the opposite sex as potential lifemates.

    If nature is stepping in now, because of the sheer numbers of people being born, which could soon be greater than what the planet can absorb, then what could or should be done about it? The earth has produced viruses and bacteria in the past which has killed millions of people - think Black Plague - so is this an attempt by nature to even the playing field to allow Earth to survive?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    ..............[/B]
    Defects cause some form of harm, or simple abnormality which is non-advantageous. Think of things like Autism, Down Syndrome, Bi-Polar Disorder, or Dwarfism, for instance.
    so what is the harm in homosexuality in your opinion. I'm sure you've told me before and I'm not remembering. Recap please

    If such conditions could be "cured" in some sense, or prevented from occurring outright, [B]most people would support doing so
    I don't think this statement is true with regard to homosexuality
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    There's more than a little objective evidence. If you're interested, I suggest you read up on Kinsey.
    Kinsey's "research" is considered to be about as credible these days as that of Sigmund Freud (which is to say, not at all).

    His methodology was questionable at best, and actively biased at worst.

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