View Poll Results: Is homosexuality "normak" and "natural"?

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  • Homosexuality is normal

    68 47.22%
  • Homosexuality is not normal

    46 31.94%
  • Homosexuality is natural

    92 63.89%
  • Homosexuality is not natural

    19 13.19%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And why aren't we all gay? Because we must reproduce and two gay people cannot, as of yet anyway. Even if some type of medical advance made it so that they could, it still doesn't change basic biological instinct.
    There probably is no reason why beyond that its just not a common trait.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    There probably is no reason why beyond that its just not a common trait.
    Because it's very likely not a "trait" in the first place.

    It is probably the result of a (comparatively) rare genetic condition, or something getting confused during the early stages of fetal development.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Because it's very likely not a "trait" in the first place.

    It is probably the result of a (comparatively) rare genetic condition, or something getting confused during the early stages of fetal development.
    Exactly, its just something that happens. There is no purpose to it as there is no purpose to right or left handedness.

    People anthropomorphize way too many phenomena.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    There probably is no reason why beyond that its just not a common trait.
    I'm skeptical. I just don't think it is a normal instinct for a man to be sexually attracted to another man, or a woman to another woman. It seems to go against all logic IMO.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm skeptical. I just don't think it is a normal instinct for a man to be sexually attracted to another man, or a woman to another woman. It seems to go against all logic IMO.
    human sexuality has never really been logical in the first place.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Exactly, its just something that happens. There is no purpose to it as there is no purpose to right or left handedness.

    People anthropomorphize way too many phenomena.
    Well, that's the question of the OP, so that is why we are discussing it. And there most certainly is a purpose to sex, and it isn't just to feel good as some would like you to think. Maybe SOME of you would take the time to read the link I posted.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    human sexuality has never really been logical in the first place.
    It is if you're straight. It makes perfect rational sense.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The way animals engage in homosexuality is more akin to prison rape than modern Western society's conception of the phenomena.

    It is a way of establishing dominance and releasing sexual energy when females are either scarce or not in season for mating. It is very rarely an exclusivistic preference.

    Even then, it's hardly as "common" as you are making out here in the first place.
    Ya know... This actually raises some interesting possibilities in and of itself.

    If homosexual behaviors in nature are primarily a means of overcoming the "dry spells" inherent to the life-cycles of species which follow a set seasonal mating pattern, could human expressions of these characteristics simply be the result of vestigial genes we inherited from some ancestor species?

    We don't mate in a set seasonal pattern. We simply settle into monogamous (or at the very least, temporarily monogamous) relationships. For that reason, we don't have any need to turn to the same sex for release.

    However, at some point in the past, one of the species from which we evolved almost certainly did. There's really nothing to say that we might not still have some of that code tagging along in our genes.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    There is an instinctual drive to reproduce. Sex feels good for a reason, so that we will reproduce.

    Social Basis of Human Sexual Behavior

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I'm an associate clinical professor in the Edward R. Murrow College of Communication at Washington State University in Pullman, Washington, where I teach some of everything: advertising, broadcasting, media criticism, and speech communication. My particular area of interest is psychophysiological responses to communication messages, especially those in advertising and television. I have a BA in Speech/Theatre, a MA in Drama, and a PhD in Theatre, emphasizing Mass Media Theory and Criticism.

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    Are you kidding me? You don't think that passing on your genes is a human instinct? I seriously can't believe it.

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