View Poll Results: Is homosexuality "normak" and "natural"?

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  • Homosexuality is normal

    68 47.22%
  • Homosexuality is not normal

    46 31.94%
  • Homosexuality is natural

    92 63.89%
  • Homosexuality is not natural

    19 13.19%
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    12 8.33%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What I can't believe is your total ****ing blatant refusal to accept that people have sex to have an organism. I was married for ten years and had sex thousands of times. Only for a few months two different times did we actually want to reproduce. NONE of the other times was that even remotely wanted. You brought up the want. Now you ignore it.



    Agreed. I have pointed all this out and it has been conveniently ignored.
    People have sex to have an organism huh? Well, yeah, I guess that's basically what I'm saying.

    You are so dense. Of course they have sex to have an orgasm. Sex feels good for the purposes of reproduction. If it didn't feel good, no one would do it.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You really haven't done too much of anything, hate to break it to you. You are just trying to simplify a complicated issue.
    If I haven't done much of anything then you haven't done jack **** and YOU are the one trying to simplify it. YOU are the one saying it is all about wanting to reproduce. I am saying that the issue is more complicated than that and that "want" is the deciding factor. You are entitled to whatever opinion you want though and I am sure that you and your twenty kids can pat each other on the back about it. OH? No twenty + kids? I thought sex was about reproducing...
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If I haven't done much of anything then you haven't done jack **** and YOU are the one trying to simplify it. YOU are the one saying it is all about wanting to reproduce. I am saying that the issue is more complicated than that and that "want" is the deciding factor. You are entitled to whatever opinion you want though and I am sure that you and your twenty kids can pat each other on the back about it. OH? No twenty + kids? I thought sex was about reproducing...
    I can't believe you cannot understand this concept. Unreal and QUITE sad and pathetic.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    I am not even sure how anyone could answer this question with anything other then yes. Homosexuality is normal. All one has to do is look at nature.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Who said it was? The point is if we were all gay, we would die out. We have to reproduce to survive. I mean, really, this is just common sense. I know you want to make gay normal and have your own ideas, but they just aren't feasible in reality.
    This argument has no basis in sense or logic. The underlying premise that I am seeing here is that for something to be normal it must be universal. Or something to that effect. Under what logic would everyone have to be gay for homosexual to be normal and/or natural? That is before we even look at all of the homosexuals who do engage in "natural" reproduction. Being gay doesn't mean that you can't have sex with a member of the opposite gender. It means that you have no attraction to them.

    Question: How are you using "normal"? If you mean "amount of X in comparison to the overall group" then yes, as most of us have agreed, homosexuality, like lefthandedness is not normal. But just as one can say "it is normal that some people are left handed", so it can also be said, "it is normal that some people are homosexual".
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    This argument has no basis in sense or logic. The underlying premise that I am seeing here is that for something to be normal it must be universal. Or something to that effect. Under what logic would everyone have to be gay for homosexual to be normal and/or natural? That is before we even look at all of the homosexuals who do engage in "natural" reproduction. Being gay doesn't mean that you can't have sex with a member of the opposite gender. It means that you have no attraction to them.

    Question: How are you using "normal"? If you mean "amount of X in comparison to the overall group" then yes, as most of us have agreed, homosexuality, like lefthandedness is not normal. But just as one can say "it is normal that some people are left handed", so it can also be said, "it is normal that some people are homosexual".
    Exactly, I don't think it's "normal" per se to be attracted to your same sex. That's why they are such a SMALL percentage of the population. It just doesn't make sense in the bigger scheme of thing, so I think wires are crossed somewhere, and it may occur naturally but is not really normal IMO.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I am not even sure how anyone could answer this question with anything other then yes. Homosexuality is normal. All one has to do is look at nature.
    I would think that would show that it is not normal. Most animals and people are not gay. It's actually quite rare.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I would think that would show that it is not normal. Most animals and people are not gay. It's actually quite rare.
    It is actually not rare. It is only rare in humans because it is a social taboo.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    It is actually not rare. It is only rare in humans because it is a social taboo.
    I think it still would be rare, in relation to the overall population, even counting those who are "in the closet" so to speak.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Exactly, I don't think it's "normal" per se to be attracted to your same sex. That's why they are such a SMALL percentage of the population. It just doesn't make sense in the bigger scheme of thing, so I think wires are crossed somewhere, and it may occur naturally but is not really normal IMO.
    Are wires crossed to make a person left handed?
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