View Poll Results: Is homosexuality "normak" and "natural"?

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  • Homosexuality is normal

    68 47.22%
  • Homosexuality is not normal

    46 31.94%
  • Homosexuality is natural

    92 63.89%
  • Homosexuality is not natural

    19 13.19%
  • Other/unsure

    12 8.33%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Use a dictionary.
    Defect - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary


    Defect

    1de·fect noun \ˈdē-ˌfekt, di-ˈ\

    : a physical problem that causes something to be less valuable, effective, healthy, etc.

    : something that causes weakness or failure
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    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    It's that easy.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's that easy.
    and your are somehow linking homosexuality with that word?
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    and your are somehow linking homosexuality with that word?
    Some people post things simply to be polemical. I wouldn't really give it the time of day.
    It's okay to be white

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by zoetherat View Post
    I don't see the point in these vague questions whose answers depend on how they're interpreted.
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    These kind of arguments are like rocking in a rocking chair. It gives you something to do but doesn't get you anyplace.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The ultimate goal in handling defects should be treatment and prevention, not "tolerance."
    define defect
    Use a dictionary.
    Defect - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    I wasn't, since that's outside the scope of the thread's 2 questions.

    I was only telling the person who needed a word defigned to consult a dictionary since thats where definitions are found.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did this about normal a few years ago, and decided it was time to try again. Was a fun and interesting thread at the time, so hopefully this will be as well. Two simple questions. Is Homosexuality "normal", and is homosexuality "natural"? If you would, please include your reasoning.

    Poll will allow multiple choices, pick a choice for the "normal" question and for the "natural" question. Poll will be up in a couple minutes.
    Well, a lot of people will insist "normal" is synonymous with "common," and homosexuality doesn't fit that criteria, but that isn't really the meaning of the word. Redheads are uncommon, and also normal. Homosexuals are the same.

    It does seem to be natural, yes. We see it in all of human history regardless of culture, and in other species as well. It occurs in nature. Thus, natural.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    As I said before, the question of "harm" can be rather subjective in this case.

    I've got a few conditions myself which I would have much rather been born without if I was given the choice. For instance, I was born with mild Scoliosis, which might very well be indicative of a more mild form of undiagnosed Marfan Syndrome.

    Has it ever affected my quality of life? Not really.

    Is it even especially noticeable? No. Not even the Army docs noticed it during my enlisted physical (which is the only reason I got in).

    However, I'd really rather not have it all the same.
    Yeah, many have conditions like these. Often the difficulty living with them is enhanced or entirely due to others being pricks about it though. My friend stuttered as a kid. Even teachers would uselessly yell "stop stuttering." I've had hand tremors since birth and while it does make some tasks difficult or impossible, the real nuisance has been the hostile reaction at times. Still, because it's made me struggle with hands on work, i've been to doctors and wish they would find a cure for it.

    I know you mentioned the nuisance of adapting, but in accepting environment, there's nothing much to adapt to being gay. It's not hard to be content with and going to doctors would be absurd.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I'm not saying that Homosexuality is the "root of all evil" here. Far from it. It's basically irrelevant on the whole.

    However, that being said, there's still no real reason why it should have to exist. It's just an anomaly.
    It doesn't *have* to exist, but neither does blue eyes. The issue here is why not just let others to decide for themselves if they're happy with it, instead of keep coming up with reasons they can't be. I've even met a few who insisted they *wish* they were gay, mostly cause they struggled with the opposite sex dating and living with them and basically all their friends are same sex.

    Fine if someone wishes they were a diff sexuality for reasons like this, not cause of homophobia or cause being gay seems "an easier life" (seriously, one told me that). But they're better off finding a way to be happy with how they are.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I'm simply looking at the issue from a scientific / medical standpoint. Like it or not, if it were possible to keep children from being born homosexual in the first place, I think a lot of parents would opt to do exactly that.

    I know I would.

    It'd simply make things easier for them, and easier for society in general.
    Easier for society how? I really don't see how 5% being homosexual affects society one way or the other.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Thats a good point. I think the modern day concept of sexual orientation isnt completely accurate- the ancient world didnt have any such distinctions (in fact the Romans had a completely different view on what sex and manliness meant). Pigeonholing somebody as gay or straight or whatever doesnt work all the time. Anectdotal: I was friends with a guy for many years and he was a devoted family man with three kids and a churchgoer, I recently called up his wife because we lost touch since I moved overseas and his wife now tells me he turned gay and they divorced. Wow.
    That sounds identical to my uncle's situation. However, the idea of him "turning gay" is absurd, sorry. That's most likely his ex-wife's explanation to avoid embarrassment. Just cause he married, went to church, and had 3 kids he wasn't gay? Well so did my uncle, and he insists he was gay the entire time and took this path only cause it was (still in this state) the only means to marry and have kids, and for career purposes.

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