View Poll Results: Is homosexuality "normak" and "natural"?

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  • Homosexuality is normal

    68 47.22%
  • Homosexuality is not normal

    46 31.94%
  • Homosexuality is natural

    92 63.89%
  • Homosexuality is not natural

    19 13.19%
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    12 8.33%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nope. The only reason people are driven to have sex is because it feels good. Billions of people have sex every day without the intention of reproducing.
    It feels good so that you will reproduce.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I never said that it wasn't "natural."

    I simply pointed out that it being "natural" doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot in and of itself. A lot of genetic and developmental conditions are "natural" and also negative.

    At the end of the day, homosexuality is a fluke, or biological anomaly. That's the point here.



    Such a thing is extremely unlikely to occur under any kind of natural circumstance.

    Again, even if it does, it would have nothing to do with homosexuality. Homosexuality is not any kind of deliberate counter-measure to population pressure.
    If you agree that homosexuality is natural, then we have no argument. I was merely responding to another poster who had argued that because reproduction is a biological imperative and homosexuals do not reproduce, homosexuality is unnatural.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And it only "feels good" because it serves a reproductive purpose, and your genes have a vested interested in making you want to do exactly that.

    Again, regardless of how we may have interfered in the process, the simple fact of the matter is that without reproduction, there would be no sex. Reproduction is it's primary purpose.

    Frankly, judging from out of control STD rates, it wouldn't appear that sex divorced from reproduction has been an especially positive development anyway. It's a waste of time, and a rather dangerous waste of time at that.
    You said it "has" been an especially positive development.

    Edit: Oops, sorry, my bad, I misread that sentence.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's true in that no parent would want their child to have to suffer in any way. I also wonder how many people are just confused about their sexuality for whatever reasons and are not truly homosexuals. I'm quite sure that is the case in some instances.
    Thats a good point. I think the modern day concept of sexual orientation isnt completely accurate- the ancient world didnt have any such distinctions (in fact the Romans had a completely different view on what sex and manliness meant). Pigeonholing somebody as gay or straight or whatever doesnt work all the time. Anectdotal: I was friends with a guy for many years and he was a devoted family man with three kids and a churchgoer, I recently called up his wife because we lost touch since I moved overseas and his wife now tells me he turned gay and they divorced. Wow.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You said it "has" been an especially positive development.

    Edit: Oops, sorry, my bad, I misread that sentence.
    Don't feel too bad. I did the same thing. lol

    I actually went back and edited the sentence before I realized that it was right the first time.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    If you agree that homosexuality is natural, then we have no argument. I was merely responding to another poster who had argued that because reproduction is a biological imperative and homosexuals do not reproduce, homosexuality is unnatural.
    I still don't think it's "normal" though. I don't think it's bad or anything, so don't get mad. I just think that it's normal for men to desire women and vice versa because all species are meant to reproduce ultimately; if not, we would die off quickly. I'm not sure about your population control theory either. It's not out of the realm of possibility, but I think what is more likely to happen is that you eventually run out of resources and a portion of the population dies from starvation, just like what does happen with many animals whenever there is an overpopulation. It is what's happening in parts of some 3rd world countries right now as we speak.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Don't feel too bad. I did the same thing. lol

    I actually went back and edited the sentence before I realized that it was right the first time.
    It was that "wouldn't appear that" that threw me I guess. It's okay, sometimes I get stupid when I'm tired.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. MOST men hunted and needed to protect themselves and their property, not only against animals but also against other predatory humans.
    Right. As a history major I have no idea about history. Most people did not CARRY guns. Gun fight deaths were around 5 deaths PER YEAR. Most people HAD guns though...
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Sounds like you've sometimes wondered just that.
    Sounds like the blathering of a blither-blatherer...
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I thought it was pretty funny!
    It would have been funny if I had said "tens of thousands" as opposed to just "thousands"...
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